Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On tv and movie cop shows they have wording like “suspect is black” but probably because it is a tad racist they never say something like “dark chocolate”, “coffee with cream”, or any other modifiers. Is that realistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 LIght, medium or dark complexion is the modifiers we use. For any skin tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Coffee with cream. Hahaha Suspect is a Male juvenile. Red shirt, mocha complexion. Espresso? Pumpkin latte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Movie. Ted Danson and Whoopie Goldberg. Whoopie had been artificially inseminated, and her daughter was curious and researched it. Turns out Ted was the donor. End of the movie, Whoopie was in the hospital, and Ted and the daughter are both donating blood. The girl leaves and Ted goes in, and the young hip black intern who is about to draw the blood says, "Man, did you see that girl that just left? Um um ummm, coffee with just the right amount of cream." Ted says, "You're talking about my daughter", which shut him up pretty quick. I had never heard that description used. Around here we have black people, light skinned black people, and dark skinned black people. Coffee with cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Here in Tucson, they have a different system MINOW. #1 Mexican #2 Indian #3 Negro #4 Oriental #5 White So they will say a suspect is a #2 Male, for instance. Not racist, just a description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 There’s Indian like on the reservations and there’s Indian like Southern Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 That would be a feather Indian or a dot Indian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: There’s Indian like on the reservations and there’s Indian like Southern Asia. Understood, but in Arizona in the TPD system it would be an American Indian. 12 hours ago, Alpo said: That would be a feather Indian or a dot Indian. "Saturday Night Live" had a bit back in the 70s where someone asked "Is he a India Indian or a 'WooWoo' Indian?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 You got your EAST INDIAN - that would be like Gandhi. You got your AMERICAN INDIAN - that would be like Tonto. But we can't forget your WEST INDIAN - that would be like Sidney Poitier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I'm tea with a LOT of milk added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 No way would I have ever used a clever colloquialism to describe any suspect's appearance. Suspect is black, white, hispanic, asian, etc. and other modifiers like clothing description, direction of travel, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: No way would I have ever used a clever colloquialism to describe any suspect's appearance. Suspect is black, white, hispanic, asian, etc. and other modifiers like clothing description, direction of travel, etc. Imagine telling someone from another responding agency you’re looking for a #3 male. Confusion would reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On the subject of correct description Longmire short story called OLD INDIAN TRICK. Walt is out of county, and had stopped at a roadside café just minutes after it had been robbed. Now a local deputy is there, taking his statement. "You didn’t see anybody when you pulled in?” “Nope.” “No Indian male, approximately twenty-five years of age with a . . .” “She didn’t say Indian. She said ‘dark hair with dark eyes.’” He didn’t like being interrupted, and he liked being corrected even less. “Look, Mister . . .” I made him look at the notebook for my name. A tall, heavyset man entered the café; he wore a large silver-belly hat, a .357 revolver, and a star. He waved at the two behind the counter as I turned back to the deputy. “Wanda’s Crow. If she thought he was Indian, she’d have said so.” I caught the eye of the woman with the hairnet. “Wanda, was the kid Indian?” After a brief conversation with the manager, they both shook their heads no. Then the local sheriff chews the deputy's butt for writing what he thought the witness said, not what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If in describing a potential suspect/perpetrator, WHY would a law enforcement agency succumb to PC rhetoric? Why is “black” “a tad racist”, but “white” is not “a tad racist”? Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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