Outrider Outlaw Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 This past weekend at a local club's monthly match I was the TO. After one shooter had a particularly bad stage I polled the spotters as usual. One spotter had 4 misses, one had 6 misses and the third said clean. I went to the third spotter and said the other two had 4 and 6 and you had clean? She admitted she wasn't paying attention. I called it at 5 misses. Did I do the right thing or should I have gone with 4? Yes, that 3rd spotter got a particularly nasty look from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorelei Longshot, SASS #44256 Life Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hope she doesn't spot regularly. I would have gone with 4 because two spotters agreed that 4 were missed. One did not agree that 5 were missed, and one was NOT spotting at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 because the spotters agreed on that and change of spotter. Edit: You call 4 misses a "particularly bad stage"? Hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I would side with the shooter at 4 misses but I am not the TO or an RO. The third spotter needs to wake up or do something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blast Masterson Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 The reason there are three spotters is there are three perspectives to observe from. Some perspectives have advantage. Some may see dirt fly and another sees the edge clip. Rule book gives benefit to the shooter, so 4 is the call. Not like this shooter is going to be in the competition for the grand prize or anything! At least spotter #3 didn't copy-cat the other spotter. "I didn't see any misses" is the proper reply in any case. If you can't follow the shooters sequence (gunfighter especially) just say it. If you can't pay attention spotting, pick up brass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 You can't see a miss. You can only see a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 The 2 spotters who were actually spotting, agreed on 4. Four it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I remember writing off a posse when a spotter said I think it was a miss, an nobody said anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Nope. No way. Odd guy out here. Benefit of doubt always goes to the shooter. Spotter 3 didn't pay attention. Spotter(s) 1 and 2 didn't agree. No consensus. CLEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: You can't see a miss. You can only see a hit. Actually-you can see a 'miss' out here in the desert. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Nope. No way. Odd guy out here. Benefit of doubt always goes to the shooter. Spotter 3 didn't pay attention. Spotter(s) 1 and 2 didn't agree. No consensus. CLEAN There's a reason we use 3 spotters. Not uncommon to have a discrepancy in count. Spotter #3 does not CXL out what the others saw. Spotter #3 was replaced, I hope-- OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Nope. No way. Odd guy out here. Benefit of doubt always goes to the shooter. Spotter 3 didn't pay attention. Spotter(s) 1 and 2 didn't agree. No consensus. CLEAN There doesn't have to be a consensus. Spotters 1 and 2 agreed that there were at least 4 misses, therefore the call is 4, which is giving the spotter the BOD on the other two possible misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Lorelei Longshot, SASS #44256 Life said: Hope she doesn't spot regularly. I would have gone with 4 because two spotters agreed that 4 were missed. One did not agree that 5 were missed, and one was NOT spotting at all. +1000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Blast Masterson said: If you can't pay attention spotting, pick up brass... Problem is they can’t see the brass either so you end up only getting back about 1/2 your brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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