Shifty Jack, SASS #65353 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I've seen a few comments trashing these saying they are junk. Are they really that much worse than the IACs? I had one when they were first imported in the mid 2000s and was not impressed. Did the quality of IACs go up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I have 2 IACs, One Norinco, and one that Coyote Cap imported; compared to any of those they are pretty bad. I had one that Lassiter worked on that was a good shooter but not very pretty. Having "Zhong Zhou Machine Works" in big bold letters down the side of the receiver definitely didn't help it any. If you are thinking of buying one get it from Lassiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 What he said ^^^ Better yet call Lassiter and ask him about the PW87. He's the only one I know of that will work on them and can get the to run good enough to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 YES Stay away from'em....... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Rose, SASS #45478 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Get a Chiappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I bought one and it was Junk ! No mater what you could not get it to work at all. Sent it to Lassiter to work his Black Magic . She Come back working like a charm . BUT STILL UGLY ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 This sounds like a good deal-- OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 They are ugly. the fit and finish is mediocre IMO. You get what you pay for that's for sure. I had my local shop order one in. The first one showed up and I worked the lever and the internals fell out on the floor. The shop sent it back and the next one functioned but felt like kitty litter on sandpaper. about 2 hours with some stones and a couple diamond files and it felt workable. I paid $360 out the door for a new pw87, spent another $50 in round trip shipping to Lassiter and $250 for the drop 2 mod. So I have an ugly 87 that functions well and works for our game that I paid $660 total for. i'd say if you can pick up an iac or chiappa for $700 or less that already has the drop 2 you'd be better off. But I dont hate mine (now that lassiter worked his magic on it). I added some decorative hardware to mine to distract people from the giant "MADE IN CHINA" on the receiver. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 When I was gathering information on color case coloring by the flame method, I came across a guy attempting to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. At least he polished of the MADE IN CHINA stuff. Here is a playlist of other videos on the same PW87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Warden Callaway said: When I was gathering information on color case coloring by the flame method, I came across a guy attempting to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. At least he polished of the MADE IN CHINA stuff. Here is a playlist of other videos on the same PW87. Wow as deep as the markings were on the one I had, I am surprised he didn’t polish a hole in the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 7:51 PM, Warden Callaway said: When I was gathering information on color case coloring by the flame method, I came across a guy attempting to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. At least he polished of the MADE IN CHINA stuff. Here is a playlist of other videos on the same PW87. Is there a serial number stamped somewhere else on those? I've heard of folks filling in the stamping(except the serial) with a tig welder and then filing down smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 9:17 PM, Sedalia Dave said: Wow as deep as the markings were on the one I had, I am surprised he didn’t polish a hole in the frame. I don’t believe he did polish off the stamping on the receiver. Look close in the video and you can see them on the left side of the receiver. The stamping is deep, it would take more then polishing to remove seeing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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