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The book takes place in Chicago, in the mid-80s.

 

The waitress asks him, "What can I get you? You want a cheeseburger and french fries? Macaroni and cheese? Ham and sweets?"

 

Ham and sweets???

 

What the hell is ham and sweets?

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46 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said:

Sweet potatoes 

I figgered it with either sweet taters or sweetbreads.

 

But I've never heard of that particular dish' name.

 

That a Yankee thing, or simply a Chicago thing?

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5 hours ago, Alpo said:

I figgered it with either sweet taters or sweetbreads.

 

But I've never heard of that particular dish' name.

 

That a Yankee thing, or simply a Chicago thing?

Grandpa used to talk about his mom making it before the Great Depression.  We still eat it today but refer to it as ham and taters now.  Maybe it was to differentiate them from the irish potato dishes? “Sweets” was not on any menu I read last weekend in Chicago.  Pizza is the popular thing now, each place said it would be at least 2 hours.

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Lived in Chicago in the 80's - hotdogs no ketchup, deep dish pizza, Italian beef sandwiches with Giardiniera peppers mix, and lots of great Deli's. Also a lot of traditional type Italian, Chinese, Polish, Indian, French, and other restaurants. Food, Museums, Buildings, Art, Sports, and people were generally friendly - a lot of great things in the city.  Government, gun laws, certain sections of town, people on top of people everywhere - not so nice. For a small town and country boy it was after awhile wearying and constraining. 

 

But never heard of Ham and Sweets in Chi-town. Best I can figure it was Ham and Sweet Potatoes - maybe in parts of town I didn't frequent. I know for some there is a big tradition of ham and sweet potato pie of just a dish of sweet potatoes for family get togethers or on Easter. Though that was mostly amongst Southern and/or African American friends. 

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Ham and Sweets casserole 

 

https://www.recipetips.com/recipe-cards/t--108878/ham-and-sweets-casserole.asp

 

Now, is this traditional Chicago? No idea.

 

Like Raylan, I spent a year there in the Navy. His food experience reflects mine.

 

Want to spin up a hot dog vendor? Ask for ketchup on your dog. :lol:

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10 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Ham and Sweets casserole 

 

https://www.recipetips.com/recipe-cards/t--108878/ham-and-sweets-casserole.asp

 

Now, is this traditional Chicago? No idea.

 

Like Raylan, I spent a year there in the Navy. His food experience reflects mine.

 

Want to spin up a hot dog vendor? Ask for ketchup on your dog. :lol:

Born and raised in Chicago and more or less lived their until 1965. Never heard of ham and sweets!  As to ketchup on a hotdog :o...sacrilege!  Mustard and relish, YES! Mustard, NEVER!  B)

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Keep in mind Chicago has dozens of ethnic neighborhoods, with a gazillion different dishes and names for them.

 

You can literally go a block and see a whole different menu. Lived there for a couple of years in the mid eighties. Printers Row.

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8 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said:

Born and raised in Chicago and more or less lived their until 1965. Never heard of ham and sweets!  As to ketchup on a hotdog :o...sacrilege!  Mustard and relish, YES! Mustard, NEVER!  B)

 

4 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said:

Could not edit my typo.

 

Yeah, I agree. It is not sacrilege to put ketchup on a dog. Ketchup and fresh cut onions! YUMMMMMY!

 

:P:P:P Hahahahaaaaa

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3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

At least it wasn’t mayonnaise.

I dunno, one would be about as bad as the other. You want the gas chamber or the electric chair?

JHC

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Let me count the ways I love hot dogs...

 

Ketchup and onions, Heinz ketchup! 

 

Ketchup & mustard

 

Mustard - yellow

 

Mustard & Kraut

 

Mustard and onions

 

Chili

 

Chili & Mustard

 

Chili, cole slaw, kraut & mustard

 

horseradish mustard

 

brown mustard

 

mayo, dill pickle & American cheese

 

cream cheese and relish

 

and sometimes nothing at all. ;)

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Howdy,

There are a lotta ways to eat a hot dog but a true Chicago dog is a

joy to the taste buds.  I would prefer every hot dog be made on a grille too.

Stab it with a stick and brown it over a campfire. O yes.

One day soon I am going to get some Chicago hot dogs, take the hot dog

out and grill it and put it back.  

Best

CR

 

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