Pedernales Drifter Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Does anyone know where to find a reasonably priced magazine tube for a IAC 97. It is in the "CB" serial number sequence. Thanks in advance! PD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 To replace a dented tube? I'd take it to a shotgun smith and have him raise the dents. Because, the IAC (and Norinco) 97s don't have a good current supply of parts available. A few here and there may be laying around. Have you called Outlaw Gambler and asked? But reasonably priced? That may be a real hard point, and why the first recommendation was made. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 He's known as Outlaw Gambler here..... https://classicoldwestarms.com/preowned.html Why does the mag tube need to be replaced?? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedernales Drifter Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 The tube needs to be replaced because the action arm (whatever it is called) stop has broken loose from the tube. 3 spot welds (I think) hold it on. This is the 4th one I've seen with this problem. This one is too beat up to fix. Thanks for the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 This tab? If so, it has nothing to do with the operation of the shotgun. It's there to keep the mag tube/slide/barrel assembly from falling apart when removed, and bending something or denting the tube. The slide shouldn't be hitting this when closing the action or it will shear off in short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Ya-What 3FJ sayz........ OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedernales Drifter Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 I've Never played with take downs much but on a solid frame there is a stop in the form of a ring, that keeps the action arm from pulling out of the hook. On Winchesters it is a press fit (or so it appears) and I've not seen one fail. On the Chinese versions it is a ring of metal, spot welded to the tube. I've seen those fail. Unfortunately what 3FJ says doesn't apply to this discussion because that is on a take down. I've never seen a Chinese takedown. Note that in the photo the LH tube is the IAC in question. You can see the ring is beat to snot and even see where the spot weld is breaking. The RH is a Winchester that is about 100 years older. I like those so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 That's the ring that the slide action spring compresses against, right? It's odd it's getting hammered like that... it shouldn't be a "hard stop" for the slide, even with the spring installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedernales Drifter Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 It is a hard stop and you are correct that the spring should absorb most of the beating. And also correct that it shouldn't fail. From personal observation, I blame it on the spot welds (and likely softer steel) failing. I've personally held in my hands at least 4 Chinese 97s that suffered from this same damage. I currently own 8 solid frame Winchesters and have owned at least that many more at one time or another. I have not seen this issue on a Winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Drill it and tap it on four sides and install four screws with red loc tite. Then go to the inside and nock off the excess screw threads. I've done this on many and never had one come apart again. J.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedernales Drifter Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Thank you for that advice. I'll give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleshoe Bill SASS #67022 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Use set screws for what Johnny Meadows does. Makes a clean surface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Gambler Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 If that doesn't work shoot me an email at outlawgambler@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 There has to be another issue causing this. My CB '97 has no sign of that damage. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I run my IAC 97's really hard in Wild Bunch. I haven't seen that ring damaged on my guns. Look for the action slide coming off the action slide hook, wrong action slide in the gun, etc. Is the action slide spring ("hog ring" shaped) spring missing between the action slide (forend steel) and that stop ring? Put it back in! Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Gun Cole Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I’ve knocked the stop loose a couple times the gunsmith silver soldered it back in place Next time he said he will laser weld it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.