Tequila Shooter Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Today I got an email offering a membership upgrade. What I can't find is what are the benefits with the Life and Patron memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 No more annual dues. Plus an immediate boost to the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 ^^^ what he said, and you get a cool Gold badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 To paraphrase JFK, " Ask not what SASS can do for you. Ask what you can do for SASS." They need money, and they need it NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Marshal Chance Morgun said: They need money, and they need it NOW! Why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: Why?? My guess would be fewer annual dues paying members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 . . . people will smile at you on the streets, kids will cheer you and women will through themselves at your feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I have no clue the reason for the upgrade offers. There may not be a specific reason. But, its not unusual for organizations to offer special upgrade promotions to members periodically. It allows for those who have considered upgrading their membership status an opportunity to do it at a discounted special rate. Nothing unusual about that. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 800 bucks for a life membership is not bad if I was younger, but it would take me another 12.3 years to break even. At my age, I think I'm better off with the yearly route. It's hard to plan 12 years in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Square Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 It would be nice if SASS had a chart or graph demonstrating the difference benefits per membership catagory, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, T-Square said: It would be nice if SASS had a chart or graph demonstrating the difference benefits per membership catagory, There is no difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: There is no difference Lifers get gold badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 And SASS gets the money now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 11:37 AM, Widder, SASS #59054 said: I have no clue the reason for the upgrade offers. There may not be a specific reason. But, its not unusual for organizations to offer special upgrade promotions to members periodically. It allows for those who have considered upgrading their membership status an opportunity to do it at a discounted special rate. Nothing unusual about that. ..........Widder Yep what Widder said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles B. Gatewood SASS #48517 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Did anyone notice the Raffle for a life membership and the alias "Four Aces" SASS# 1111? The Member Bulletin was sent at 9:04 this morning and the drawing is today?!? CBG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Another difference I've noticed is with an annual membership, some people get 5 year milestone pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Charles B. Gatewood SASS #48517 said: Did anyone notice the Raffle for a life membership and the alias "Four Aces" SASS# 1111? The Member Bulletin was sent at 9:04 this morning and the drawing is today?!? CBG I donated this for proceeds to go to the scholarship fund. It was my son's alias & #. When my wife passed away earlier this year, she wanted him to have her #. This # was originally given to China Camps daughter, who then gave it to my son, along with giving him the alias. A bunch of history with this. Is there a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 That was might nice of you https://www.sassnet.com/mercantile/raffle-s.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 A correction, as I read the bulletin, the raffle ends tomorrow and the winner drawn on Sep 3rd. Last Chance! Don't forget to get your tickets for the "Four Aces" Raffle! Raffle ends Midnight on Monday, September 2. Winner will be drawn on Tuesday, September 3. Tickets are only $5 each or 5 for $20! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 In 11 years I'll be money ahead and only 77 years of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles B. Gatewood SASS #48517 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, Griff said: A correction, as I read the bulletin, the raffle ends tomorrow and the winner drawn on Sep 3rd. Last Chance! Don't forget to get your tickets for the "Four Aces" Raffle! Raffle ends Midnight on Monday, September 2. Winner will be drawn on Tuesday, September 3. Tickets are only $5 each or 5 for $20! Hi Griff! Really like the backstory! Thanks for sharing! Yes, I saw the correction when I opened the email on the pc instead of the iPhone. CBG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence Cutter Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 1:50 PM, Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 said: Another difference I've noticed is with an annual membership, some people get 5 year milestone pins. Did this just start? The reason I ask is I just got a 5 year pin ........ after 8 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Fence Cutter said: Did this just start? The reason I ask is I just got a 5 year pin ........ after 8 years! Oh no! Let's not start this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Fence Cutter said: Did this just start? The reason I ask is I just got a 5 year pin ........ after 8 years! Yes, it just started. The pins appear to be given in five-year increments. I'm not sure of the system as Hubby's 21st year was this year and he did not received a pin for 20 years then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 said: Yes, it just started. The pins appear to be given in five-year increments. I'm not sure of the system as Hubby's 21st year was this year and he did not received a pin for 20 years then. Never got my 15 year. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Let's get into a 10 page discussion over some $.25 pins. Postage costs more than the pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 said: Yes, it just started. The pins appear to be given in five-year increments. I'm not sure of the system as Hubby's 21st year was this year and he did not received a pin for 20 years then. Never got my 15 year. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Is this just a fund raiser, or a SASS life support effort? It seems like they are trading long- term sustaining annual membership dues for an immediate shot in the arm to get past immediate financial needs. If the latter, I would prefer them to describe the unusual needs, and ask for an annual dues increase. I would happily pay it rather than see them trade their future revenue to meet immediate and temporary needs. My experience has been that organizations (and businesses or agencies) tend to exercise less care and diligence in their budget expenditure decisions when their treasury gets temporarily fat. Then when the money runs down--and it will-- they go into desperation mode and try to borrow against their future with efforts like this. The money inevitably gets thin again. I say "inevitably" because they are not increasing their markets or pricing, and they are reducing their long-term annual revenue intake. Once everyone becomes a "Lifetime Member" and has their cool gold badge, then who finances the organization? They should seek and deliver ongoing and new services that attract sustaining new memberships/dollars or they should simply justify dues increases, as necessary and/or realistic. That has to go along with living within their means. But trading their long-term income sustainment for meeting immediate objectives/needs appears as a sign of financial desperation and a recipe for long term squeeze in the SASS revenue and ability to deliver services, keep commitments, and survive as an entity. This is obviously just one person's view. So if you disagree, help me understand how this can be a long term sustaining benefit to SASS. For me, I'd rather make the $$ decision annually, based on an assessment of SASS service, what is needed to meet SASS financial needs, at the time, and assessment of my own physical capability. Once I pay for a Life Membership, I lose the ability to "vote with my feet", if the organization becomes unresponsive. I see that accountability as important. Organization sustainment needs to be about sound, long-view revenue management and investment, not just about patching budgetary holes, financing shiny new facilities (build it and they will come), and/or filling temporary revenue dips. Every part of an organizational budget needs to be self-sustaining. I have no way to know if that is the case here. Perhaps someone can provide a closer look into the SASS long term, and change my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Fence Cutter said: Did this just start? The reason I ask is I just got a 5 year pin ........ after 8 years! The whole pin program is fairly new - I received my 20 years pin and have been a member since '96. Regardless, I am all in on this plan....not sure I'll be around in life much longer to get any "bargain" or savings from becoming a lifer, but so what.....SASS has been good to me much more than I have been good for it, but want to up my support for the organization that has afforded me so many good friends over the years. Plus - it would make a nice personal Christmas gift GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I would love to take advantage of the Life Membership offer however, its almost time to renew my SASS Affiliated Merchant program for 2020. I am happy to renew annually - and plan to do so for MANY years to come. What does SASS give me? The most fun shooting discipline in the world, advocacy for gun rights, an organization, albeit run by human beings with flaws - just like its membership - rules/ROC for standardized matches (relatively speaking) - and a community of folks who have become some of my best friends! I love this game and the folks who play it. I am proud of SASS. I am proud to be a member. Big hugs, Scarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_Head Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Thanks, Scarlett! Refreshing to see a positive posting ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 20 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Never got my 15 year. Oh well Never got my 20 year pin!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorelei Longshot, SASS #44256 Life Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Joined in 2003, but went life within a year. Didn't get a 15 year pin last year which (correct me if I'm wrong) is when they started giving out the pins I think. Is it because lifers don't get pins. Have even upgraded my SASS membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Lorelei Longshot, SASS #44256 Life said: Joined in 2003, but went life within a year. Didn't get a 15 year pin last year which (correct me if I'm wrong) is when they started giving out the pins I think. Is it because lifers don't get pins. Have even upgraded my SASS membership. Just call the SASS office and they will fill you in on the details of the pin program. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I became a Life Member, a Founders Ranch member, a Museum member, a Hall of Fame Member, etc. etc. I NEVER received anything except some excellent Founders Ranch benefits. Years ago, I got a sloppy Joe sandwich at the club ranch house. The board meetings, dinners, etc. that were promised never materialized. I have occasionally asked what happened but haven't complained because I enjoy the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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