BootStrap Phil Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Results to a Shooter Survey I put together for my research on wants and desires. Sharing for the masses, 191 shooters surveyed. Bootstraps Survey...pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Stone, SASS #53366 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Says in your attachment not available. Marshal Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Loads fine for me......... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootStrap Phil Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Try this link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nHvlRD6pkD1tQWZSXgXb_0giDcE3eDQp/view?fbclid=IwAR0yX28TgqykG1mFrqrVMRf8cWk4iPr4IZ9TgXL1Sb3WNqH3P24OXZGY2ac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Jim 107095 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 If you’re not signed in, you can’t open it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, BootStrap Phil said: Try this link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nHvlRD6pkD1tQWZSXgXb_0giDcE3eDQp/view?fbclid=IwAR0yX28TgqykG1mFrqrVMRf8cWk4iPr4IZ9TgXL1Sb3WNqH3P24OXZGY2ac Both the original & this link both worked for me. Win 7 & FireFox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Great survey effort. How in the world did you get this many people to put such effort into responding? Great job!!! - - - - REALLY!!! Very good reading for anyone putting together matches or leading posses. It deserves to be a permanent pin-up posting here. My own simplified takeaway messages, after reading it: 1. Provide variety in targets, distances, difficulty. 2. Don't forget who you as MD are working for - - paying customers. 3. Don't overdo anything except food and water. Too much of any one stage design thing will be distasteful. 4. Make sure the match stays fun, energized, and friendly. 5. Treat everyone like they have a SASS number in the same range as your own. We are equals. 6. No surprises. Have clear posse stage directions, and strive for minimum Procedurals, Minor Safeties, DQs, target overlaps, and shooter stoppages. Work to help shooters - - not just to police them. And to the survey results I would have added, for Posse leaders, Make sure you understand and have emergency procedures memorized and potentially needed resources available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Great job, BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ The Red Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Fantastic survey! I scanned the comments and realized I need to spend some serious time in carefully considering a wide range of concerns. This is one of the best things I have seen lately which is meant to give shooters a voice. I had never given real thought to the left-hand shooters needs on stages. The option to start at either end when possible was often cited as important. Thank you so much for setting this up and getting results out so quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootStrap Phil Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 Thank you all, glad everyone is finding it helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hmmm... some 70% like SASS recommended distances... When was the last time these folks actually shot a match where targets used all the distances recommended... especially the rifle... o Revolver targets: 7 to 10 yards. o Shotgun targets: 8 to 16 yards. o Rifle targets: 13 to 50 yards. And for those that say... "feel the splash" I hope you, and you alone gets your wish. As the shooter I rarely feel any splashback, but when TOing, spotting, scorekeeping or simply watching... the splash back is none to pleasant. I believe it has something to do with the direction splash back occurs... more frequent around the edges of the splash pattern. whereas directly in line with the shot... not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Griff said: Hmmm... some 70% like SASS recommended distances... When was the last time these folks actually shot a match where targets used all the distances recommended... especially the rifle... o Revolver targets: 7 to 10 yards. o Shotgun targets: 8 to 16 yards. o Rifle targets: 13 to 50 yards. And for those that say... "feel the splash" I hope you, and you alone gets your wish. As the shooter I rarely feel any splashback, but when TOing, spotting, scorekeeping or simply watching... the splash back is none to pleasant. I believe it has something to do with the direction splash back occurs... more frequent around the edges of the splash pattern. whereas directly in line with the shot... not so much. Last weekend SASS monthly Revolver 8 Shotgun 9 Rifle 14-15 When working with 4H Western Heritage kids those are near the minimums. We used the TMS range for the WH state shoot July 4th and the targets ended up at those distances, but in all honesty that is where they are normally. Many of the 4H’ers are shooting 22’s so any extra distance is a good thing Regards Gateway Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Since I’m not going to spend the time to read all the answers in detail, a summary would be nice. But you are to be commended for putting such a detailed study together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Jack, SASS #65353 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 This should be required reading for match directors, awesome work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Thanks for the survey. Variety of responses for sure. But I do like the one about Blond, Blue Eyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Red Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Great Job Phil.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major BS Walker Regulator Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I appreciate all the information you have complied. Good Job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keystone, SASS # 47578 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 How were the 191 people selected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Excellent! I would like to see all MD look it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex M Rugers #6621 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Keystone, SASS # 47578 said: How were the 191 people selected? They were not selected , they just took part in the survey Bootstrap Phil put on the wire a few days ago. Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootStrap Phil Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Keystone, SASS # 47578 said: How were the 191 people selected? Just an open survey posted on Facebook and the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Thanks for collecting this. One thing that would be interesting is to see the demographic information on the respondents. Location, age, number of years in SASS. And it would be interesting to compare responses against these demographics. It may add context to the raw data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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