bgavin Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I have never shot a 410. Is there a noticeable reduction of recoil in 410 loads? For example, Stoeger makes a SxS coach gun in 410. This is legal only for the Buckaroo class. I'm academically curious how much less the recoil would be in the same weight shotgun. The physical size is the same, i.e. "large" for a youth shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Not really-What you will notice is the fact that 410 costs 3x what 12 ga does..... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 bfavin, .410 has less recoil than 12 and 20 gauge. Here is a link that has a table with numbers to reference. https://chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm OLG is correct. .410 is more expensive and sometimes hard to find when looking for a particular load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: bfavin, .410 has less recoil than 12 and 20 gauge. Here is a link that has a table with numbers to reference. https://chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm OLG is correct. .410 is more expensive and sometimes hard to find when looking for a particular load. That was done with factory loads. WW-Featherlites and such or toned down reloads will really reduce the felt recoil in 12ga. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Who is this mysterious Chuck Hawks anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I made the mistake of buying Sassparilla Kid a .410 H&R single-shot Youth Model when he was a wee lad. That thing was downright unpleasant to shoot! A bunch of years later, ol' Palouse gave the kid a .410 Baikal SxS. After having the springs replaced it's a totally sweet shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 said: Who is this mysterious Chuck Hawks anyway? He is a well known shooter, hunter, and writer for firearms. I've read all his papers. His recoil table is very close to the same numbers produced by the mass calculation formulas I use for my spread sheets. OLG, I bought a few cases of the featherlite exactly for that reason. Kick-EEZ makes a nice sorbothane recoil pad for the Stoeger that is also supposed to be a big help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 About the best made slip on pad to reduce felt recoil that's out there. http://www.shootersfriend.com/ I use'em on my hard kickers. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wow.. that is impressive. And 1/3 the price of the sorbothane pad. I figure you wouldn't use 'em, or recommend 'em, if they didn't work. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I made Kaya shells from .444 Marlin cases. Used H110 powder. I still have some. Dang kid grew up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said: I made Kaya shells from .444 Marlin cases. Used H110 powder. I still have some. Dang kid grew up If you get time Michigan Slim could you post a pick or two of those shells? Thanks- SCJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, bgavin said: He is a well known shooter, hunter, and writer for firearms. I've read all his papers. His recoil table is very close to the same numbers produced by the mass calculation formulas I use for my spread sheets. OLG, I bought a few cases of the featherlite exactly for that reason. Kick-EEZ makes a nice sorbothane recoil pad for the Stoeger that is also supposed to be a big help. I know of him but don't recall seeing any articles in well known gun rags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 From my sons point of view, both of them prefer the 410, but my 14 year old is getting used to the 12 because he likes bigger calibers. The 9 year old can tell the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 What is a recommended 410 for a buckaroo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 My best friend had an Ainsworth Fox (Ainsley Fox? This particular memory here is forty years old!) double .410 choked tight and tighter, and the man was deadly with it. He did say never, EVER to use one in the barn, where the timbers were seasoned white oak, if you were shooting a feed-eating rat. He caught two pellets under the rim of his spectacles where seasoned white oak returned part of the plumbum payload to sender, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 10:32 AM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Not really-What you will notice is the fact that 410 costs 3x what 12 ga does..... OLG Unless you reload, big components savings on 410 vs the volume that 12 takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 A 28 Ga. SxS on a real 28 ga. size frame Makes a Sweet shooting low recoil option fer da Youngsters .... But you will need to reload to keep the costs down .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Had an ithaca mod. 66 lever break single shot in .410. Kicked like a mule compared to the 20 ga and 12 ga I've had since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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