Johnny Longpants Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 After reading the thread on providing target style (big/close vs small/far) I wondered how one would characterize what is big and close vs small and far so I setup an Excel sheet to give me relative comparisons between target plate size and distance. I found it helpful so I am sharing. The calculation is based on the angle subtended from the point of view of the shooter as a target of given size is moved outward. Using a few common plate sizes (14", 16" and 24") you can see how moving the plate away from the shoot reduces the effective size to the shooter. The table shows angles in degrees. So if your gun is pointed more than half that angle away from "straight at the target" you will miss. You can see then that a 14" plate at 5 yrds is pretty much the same as a 16" plate at 6 yrds and a 24" plate at 9 yrds. Setting at 5 yrds is about twice as "easy" as setting at 10 yrds. In other words setting at 10 yrds requires your angular deviation when firing to be half of what you are allowed at 5 yrds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Serious question: Does this mean that a shooter of a certain degree of Proficiency at a 14" plate at 5 yards will still have that same Proficiency at a 24" plate at 10 yards? Proficiency means speed and hit percentage. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Serious question: Does this mean that a shooter of a certain degree of Proficiency at a 14" plate at 5 yards will still have that same Proficiency at a 24" plate at 10 yards? Proficiency means speed and hit percentage. ..........Widder That depends on what's going on between the ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Serious question: Does this mean that a shooter of a certain degree of Proficiency at a 14" plate at 5 yards will still have that same Proficiency at a 24" plate at 10 yards? Proficiency means speed and hit percentage. ..........Widder Actually, speed wise, the further out the faster one can shoot a string if the arrangement of the targets are identical. Less movement from one target to the other...ya know Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 It’s also useful in other ways, and you can think of it in terms of MOA (minute of angle) — rule of thumb is 1” = 1 MOA at 100 yards. At 8 yards, a 16” plate is roughly 200 MOA. At 2 yards, 200 MOA comes out to about 4”. So I can tape 4” targets on the wall 6 feet away for dry firing practice, and have about the same visual presentation as 16” plates at 8 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Doc Shapiro said: That depends on what's going on between the ears. Exactly, Doc. I wanted the OP to see that a simple equation on paper doesn't translate to shooters performance in an actual stage scenario. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eye Jim Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Actually, speed wise, the further out the faster one can shoot a string if the arrangement of the targets are identical. Less movement from one target to the other...ya know Phantom Well you could fix that with relative target placement. (Spread the far one apart a little further...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, Red Eye Jim said: Well you could fix that with relative target placement. (Spread the far one apart a little further...) No practical reason for doing that...so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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