H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I just discovered this... https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Shotshell/WWII-Victory-Series I can see myself buying a couple of boxes, or more. But only if they are boxer primed for reloading. A few years ago someone gave me a box of newly made Remingtons, and I discovered much to my chagrin that they were berdan primed. The only real drawback I can can see to them is that they are loaded with 00 buck. Which means you need to either go hunting with them, or just shoot 'em off before you can reload them for SASS use. Unless someone wants to figure out a side match or something that they would be okay for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Depending on price and Boxer primed, one could pull the top card and dump the 00 buck and refill with birdshot and put in a new top card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I see them advertised on grabagun (out of stock) for $27.49 for a box of 5. I'll stick with my Rem-UMC, Winchester, and Alcan shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 In 1991 Remington donated a case of their "Ducks Unlimited" shotshells for our first annual match. They were #4 shot and all Berdan primed. And a little too stout for CAS... IMO. My guess is that they weren't great sellers and Rem thought it'd be a good write-off to our non-for-profit club. I've read of a couple ways to make them boxer primed or to use 209s... but I've not been successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffield, SASS #23454 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Griff said: In 1991 Remington donated a case of their "Ducks Unlimited" shotshells for our first annual match. They were #4 shot and all Berdan primed. And a little too stout for CAS... IMO. My guess is that they weren't great sellers and Rem thought it'd be a good write-off to our non-for-profit club. I've read of a couple ways to make them boxer primed or to use 209s... but I've not been successful. The older Lyman manuals (44 or earlier) tell how to convert all brass shells to 209 primers. The procedure sounds fairly easy. Duffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Um, you do realize that's a little over $5.00 per round ....... right?? For 2-n-3/4 inch shells that are roll crimped, over-powered for CAS and use an illegal shot size?? Seems a little ...... MUCH. Unless you just want 5 for home defense. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Um, you do realize that's a little over $5.00 per round ....... right?? For 2-n-3/4 inch shells that are roll crimped, over-powered for CAS and use an illegal shot size?? Seems a little ...... MUCH. Unless you just want 5 for home defense. Or something. You do realize that if they use 209 primers, that’s a savings of over $2.00 per shell from ordering most brass shells and about the same price as a box of empty, unprimed Magtec? I will buy a couple boxes if I can find ‘em, shoot ‘em whenever I need buckshot, and then load ‘em up for cowboy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 16 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Um, you do realize that's a little over $5.00 per round ....... right?? For 2-n-3/4 inch shells that are roll crimped, over-powered for CAS and use an illegal shot size?? Seems a little ...... MUCH. Unless you just want 5 for home defense. Or something. I believe, without looking, that this is the military special edition for D-days celebration. 45 ACP, .30 Carbine, 30-06 M1 Garand ( that is to powerful for a standard Garand) and the 12g for the 1897s. I have checked out something that adjust the amount of gas that you can add in a Garand so you can fire modern .30-06, until you make this addition to your rifle I am told that it is harmful to shoot anything but the ammo similar to what was issued in WWII. I am sure someone here shoots Garlands and can elaborate. I bought one and shot with about 5 clips a while back and now I know why I had crappy results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Just saw a response from Winchester, the shotshells are indeed boxer primed and therefore reloadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I am going to shoot nothing but brass shotshell.I have two boxes of brass UMCs and 5 boxes of magtec.Like the UMCs much better but they are had to find.Bought these two boxes off the wire.Thanks Dawg.Would still like a few more boxes of brass . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Be interesting to fid out whom is making the All Brass hulls for Winchester. I had some WW All Brass with that funny raised area that locked up my antique Hammer Doubles. Gave them the Heave Ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Be interesting to fid out whom is making the All Brass hulls for Winchester. I had some WW All Brass with that funny raised area that locked up my antique Hammer Doubles. Gave them the Heave Ho. ACK Next time heave them in my direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Be interesting to fid out whom is making the All Brass hulls for Winchester. I had some WW All Brass with that funny raised area that locked up my antique Hammer Doubles. Gave them the Heave Ho. I have more old Rem-UMC hulls than Winchester, but they seem about the same other than the headstamp and both work fine in a Baikal and TTN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appalachian Alan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I think the little wooden box is a case of 5 boxes of 5 shells. 25 shells ? $27 at lease according to a few listings. but not in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Appalachian Alan said: I think the little wooden box is a case of 5 boxes of 5 shells. 25 shells ? $27 at lease according to a few listings. but not in stock. I think a "box" is 5 shells for $27. The wooden "case" holds 5 boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Eye Matey!! Atz-a-way I read it. A "box" is 5 rounds for 27 bucks and change. That's $137.45 for 25. That's right at $5.50 a round. That's some expensive. I'd sure like to have a couple of those nifty wood boxes though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Well, if they were heavy machined brass shells like Rocky Mountain Cartridge, then it would be a pretty good deal. I'm guessing they're not, but maybe??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylan Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 For what it's worth here is a youtube video to reloading smokeless and black powder in Magtech shotshells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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