Hashknife Cowboy Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Why do some SAA have a base pin bushing and some do not? Thanks for the answers. I recently picked up a 44-40 SAA without a bushing and was curious. I find that I have better luck in finding a Colt SAA in those smaller mom and pop gun stores off of the beaten path, than trying to deal with Colt or ordering one. If I find it and I have the $$ then I will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Colt changed their design (Gen 3), then put it back in of late. My basic understanding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Colt changed their design (Gen 3), then put it back in of late. My basic understanding... Yep, that's the answer. Here's an article explaining it a bit: http://sixgun-forums.com/sixguns/content/12-colt-single-action-army-3rd-generation It details why a later 3rd Gen, (sometimes mistakenly called a 4th Gan), is a tad more desirable than an earlier 3rd Gen. This article is a little out of date, as Colt's SAA is now strictly a Custom Shop item. Some of the Custom Shop offerings of the mid-2000s were quite nice, with options of multiple calibers, striking CCH, deep blues, custom roll stamp marks, availability of Black Powder Frames, beveled cylinders and more, with about a 4-5mos wait time... These days, it's strictly .45 and .357. The backlog is counted in years, and not much in the way of customization. Used 3rd Gen prices are all over the map, depending on seller, site, condition (of course!), and the gun's configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 McCandless got a question. What’s a parts gun worth, frame and grip frame/trigger guard serial # makes them 1906 vintage barrel and cylinder appear to be 1990s vintage, all reblued. 7 1/2” Barrel stamped Frontier Six Shooter 44-40. It’s a good shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Hashknife Cowboy said: Why do some SAA have a base pin bushing and some do not? Mostly because of Colt's 'bean-counters' and whomever was run'n the 'show'. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Bull Skinner said: McCandless got a question. What’s a parts gun worth, frame and grip frame/trigger guard serial # makes them 1906 vintage barrel and cylinder appear to be 1990s vintage, all reblued. 7 1/2” Barrel stamped Frontier Six Shooter 44-40. It’s a good shooter. It's hard to say. Depends, is all I can say. A Franken-gun would probably go for less than the sum of it's parts. Check out the retail of the old parts on Numrich Gun Parts. Then look at the regional or online auctions at Rock Island, (don't forget to factor in the 18 percent buyers premium +shipping+ffl fees. Recent prices of similar low-collectible-desireability Colts has been in the $600-900 range. Collector's auctions are often the best place to buy the less desirable guns because collectors often pass on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Gun Cole Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I ordered a pair June 2018. Still waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Three Gun Cole said: I ordered a pair June 2018. Still waiting Someone posted in the last few days that they got notification that their guns are going into production this week, after 2-1/2 yrs. The ones I bought from the Custom Shop came in just 5 months, but it's been more than a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Thanks McCandless, I had no idea. Took it on a trade a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Bull Skinner said: McCandless got a question. What’s a parts gun worth, frame and grip frame/trigger guard serial # makes them 1906 vintage barrel and cylinder appear to be 1990s vintage, all reblued. 7 1/2” Barrel stamped Frontier Six Shooter 44-40. It’s a good shooter. Maybe $1000...in today's market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Colt when back to the removable cylinder bushing set-up in the early 2000's. I try and get a serial # range and more definitive date soon. TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 How do you screw a third gen barrel onto a first gen frame. I thought the threads were different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Thanks Phantom that gets me closer to breakeven on the deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: How do you screw a third gen barrel onto a first gen frame. I thought the threads were different. "A 3rd Generation barrel can be fitted to a 1st or 2nd Generation Single Action, ... it is basically being re-threaded as it is installed." http://sixgun-forums.com/sixguns/content/12-colt-single-action-army-3rd-generation The 24tpi mating to the 20tpi, pretty much cross-threading, but it's been done more times than it should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Maybe $1000...in today's market. 3 hours ago, Bull Skinner said: Thanks Phantom that gets me closer to breakeven on the deal! I’ve certainly paid a lot more for a lot less. 4 hours ago, McCandless said: Someone posted in the last few days that they got notification that their guns are going into production this week, after 2-1/2 yrs. The ones I bought from the Custom Shop came in just 5 months, but it's been more than a decade. That was me. I ordered mine in February of 2017 with a 12-18 month finish time quote. Looks like they missed that one by just a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, McCandless said: "A 3rd Generation barrel can be fitted to a 1st or 2nd Generation Single Action, ... it is basically being re-threaded as it is installed." http://sixgun-forums.com/sixguns/content/12-colt-single-action-army-3rd-generation The 24tpi mating to the 20tpi, pretty much cross-threading, but it's been done more times than it should have. I forgot about butchers....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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