Stopsign32v Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Which SxS exposed hammer shotguns do you guys keep an eye out for as a shooter that is older than a 'clone'? I'm talking shooter priced, less than 1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanigan Flats Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Parker and colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muley Gil SASS # 57795 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 There are some exposed hammer Stevens double barrels that look interesting. Years ago, I had a Belgian made DB with hammers. I hunted with it for a number of years. It probably won't hold up to SASS competition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I started with a Remington 1889. Still have it, may shoot Cowboy Clays with it at EOT! Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Keep in mind the era of the hammer doubles were made to shoot black powder because smokeless wasn't used untill the late 1890s. Even after that they were not chambered for modern 2-3/4" shells we have today. Some of the latest made hammer doubles with steel barrels were the Stevens series - most common being the 235 model. Stevens 225 - very simular to 235 model. Stevens 215 - has unusual action with triggers set inline. Stevens 250 - one of the last domestic made side lock double. I have a Remington 1889 made in 1900 with steel barrels that was made in 1900 that was approved for "nitro" powder. But again the nitro powder and hulls were not like modern ammo. Crescent Arms made hammer doubles under hundreds of store brand names - all were made to sell cheap, as did Hopkins and Allen. The beloved Colt 1878s were all black powder guns. Original Colt above Cimarron 1878 Colt 1887 10 gauge, Cimarron 1878 and Colt 1878 12 gauge. Cimarron 1878 over original Colt 1878 10 gauge. There were boatloads imported from Europe and some were of high quality but most were poor quality. It has become about impossible to find parts for the old hammer doubles. Parts you find may or may not work because of design variations. Most were shot loose by shooting modern ammo in them.s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 What's the going price range for Stevens hammered doubles? I would think they would have to be inexpensive or a shooter would choose a more recent gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stopsign32v Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Thanks! Looks like an ol Stevens 235 would fit the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Warden Callaway said: Keep in mind the era of the hammer doubles were made to shoot black powder because smokeless wasn't used untill the late 1890s. Even after that they were not chambered for modern 2-3/4" shells we have today. Some of the latest made hammer doubles with steel barrels were the Stevens series - most common being the 235 model. Stevens 225 - very simular to 235 model. Stevens 215 - has unusual action with triggers set inline. Stevens 250 - one of the last domestic made side lock double. I have a Remington 1889 made in 1900 with steel barrels that was made in 1900 that was approved for "nitro" powder. But again the nitro powder and hulls were not like modern ammo. Crescent Arms made hammer doubles under hundreds of store brand names - all were made to sell cheap, as did Hopkins and Allen. The beloved Colt 1878s were all black powder guns. Original Colt above Cimarron 1887 Colt 1887 10 gauge, Cimarron 1887 and Colt 1887 12 gauge. Cimarron 1887 over original Colt 1887 10 gauge. There were boatloads imported from Europe and some were of high quality but most were poor quality. It has become about impossible to find parts for the old hammer doubles. Parts you find may or may not work because of design variations. Most were shot loose by shooting modern ammo in them.s The Colt and Cimarron I believe are 1878's. J.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L said: The Colt and Cimarron I believe are 1878's. J.M. You're right. I posted before daybreak and the fog hadn't lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Go West said: What's the going price range for Stevens hammered doubles? I would think they would have to be inexpensive or a shooter would choose a more recent gun. One in good shape, if you can find one, probably as much as a new Cimarron 1878 (if you can find one). Then get the chambers recut to modern 2-3/4 and lengthen the forcing cones. Then the hammers are too low and far apart to cock both with one motion. The old hammer doubles are a nostalgic labor of love. Especially if you shoot black powder loads in brass cases. But they are not competitive against the Cimarron 1878 or CZ-USA or similar reproduction coach guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 You'll be better off buying one of the modern hammered shotguns being made for cowboy shooting. As stated above, if you break a part, finding a new one could be difficult. Finding a gunsmith that can make a new part will be difficult and expensive, it will likely cost you as much or more then the gun cost you in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Husqvarna model 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 When I first started CAS, I found a nice Beligian-made hammer double, not only nitro-proofed, but with 70mm (2-3/4") chambers, that I used for a number of years...until, one day, I looked at the stock and the finish on the barrels, and saw I was beating up the outside of a (then) $500 gun! So, I retired it, and bought a Roosian, but with 28" barrels could only find a hammerless....which I don't like nearly as much! Having gotten older and busier, where I don't shoot so much, I doubt I'll buy me another hammer scattergun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Tula TOZ-66's are built like a brick wall and usually reasonably priced, I have collected 3 of them with 20"bbls. The springs must be from a B-60 Mack from the factory, but a good 'smith can fix'em right up. There was a 28" for sale in the classifieds, don't know if it's still available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Derringer, SASS #19985 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 A Huskavrna hammer double (under lever) would have lots of style points & I have seen some folks that can run them at a respectable speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 The Rossi Overland was a new classic. I think it's out of print now but a few used ones show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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