Subdeacon Joe Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Payen PA-112 The Japanese verseion wasn't much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 At least the Luftwaffe put two more wheels on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 How about the GB (GeeBee)? Can't recall who flew it...might have been Jimmy Doolittle. But it was unstable as all getout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Looks like somebody was trying to take the ugliness of war to a whole new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: Looks like somebody was trying to take the ugliness of war to a whole new level. ding ding ding no more callers folks, we have a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Payen PA-112 The Japanese verseion wasn't much better When you said more ugly I thought you were referring to my first girl friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Visibility for the pilot must not have been a high priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G W Wade Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Anybody else thinking Studebaker GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I'm thinking Edsel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 11:17 AM, Trailrider #896 said: How about the GB (GeeBee)? Can't recall who flew it...might have been Jimmy Doolittle. But it was unstable as all getout! Lowell Bayles was killed in the model Z when trying to achieve a world speed record in 1931. Doolittle won the Thompson with the R-1 in 1932. Russell Boardman was killed in the same plane in 1933 Bendix Trophy race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE said: I'm thinking Edsel I never saw the Edsel as an ugly car. The Aztek, new Cherokee, and Cube are far uglier yet they actually sold better. Well, maybe not the Aztek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Lowell Bayles was killed in the model Z when trying to achieve a world speed record in 1931. Doolittle won the Thompson with the R-1 in 1932. Russell Boardman was killed in the same plane in 1933 Bendix Trophy race. Some aircraft designer should have been prosecuted...for violating the laws of aerodynamics! Of course, as I told Wilbur and I told Orville, and I'm telling you... It'll never get off the ground! And, in these cases, they shouldn't have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major E A Sterner #12916 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It seems to Me that the only thing of beauty coming out of France is their woman.Their cars, guns and planes tent to be ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Their architecture is nice, but they have a bad habit of burning it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 How about the Brewster Buffalo, the B-10 Martin or P-39 Aircobra? More than ugly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tom Bullweed said: How about the Brewster Buffalo, the B-10 Martin or P-39 Aircobra? More than ugly.... None of those strike me as ugly. The B-10's only really odd feature was that kind of birdcage canopy at the nose. The Buffalo was blunt nosed and not particularly elegant, but far from ugly. And the P-39 was a good looking ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 The P-39 is one of the coolest looking planes of its era, IMO. It and the P-40 would have performed better if the US had a better inline engine than the underpowered Allison. Even the P-51 was an underachiever until powered with a Merlin. The Buffalo was a groundbreaking airframe when designed in the 30’s. But the Navy kept adding requirements that weighed it down without increasing its horsepower. Kinda like making an F-150 haul as much as a deuce n a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Major E A Sterner #12916 said: It seems to Me that the only thing of beauty coming out of France is their woman.Their cars, guns and planes tent to be ugly. Well... the Bugatti 100 may have been an exception. Unfortunately, it got interrupted by the Big War. (Note: A replica was built in the US in 2015; sadly, it crashed on it's third flight, apparently due to an engine problem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: The P-39 is one of the coolest looking planes of its era, IMO. It and the P-40 would have performed better if the US had a better inline engine than the underpowered Allison. Even the P-51 was an underachiever until powered with a Merlin. The P-39 as originally designed was a decent performer. Unfortunately, when the production orders were placed, they "all-wise" government specified the superchargers be omitted to save money, limiting it's effectiveness at higher altitudes. A former work buddy's dad flew P-39's in the Pacific... he loved it, and said the thing would "turn on a dime!" He actually got a Zero, and shared in a second kill. There was a painting depicting the event that hung on his son's office wall: The story goes that the Japanese pilot survived; when he was fished out of the drink he said he never knew what hit him. Oh... Lt Leonard Frame was a dairyman ~ hence the "Elsie the Cow" tail art. He retired from the Air Force Reserves as a Lt Colonel, and continued to fly into his 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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