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Effects of a various shotgun rounds.

 

 

 

 

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The lession here is don't hide behind a door 

Looks like this door was a thin metal clad door

45 years ago I shot an abandoned car with some deer slugs . Don't hide in or behind a car 

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PLUS ONE to Catlow4697

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Posted (edited)

That Winchester Defender load is impressive. I am going to have to look into that one.

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When did #8 and #4 become "bird shot"?

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6 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

When did #8 and #4 become "bird shot"?

Well if your hunting Condors or Bald Eagles, you need something more than 8 shot.

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I wish he would have done a round of #1 buck.

The FBI research folks say this is the most lethal of them all.

648 grains at 1250 fps is around 46+ lbs of recoil in my 7lb 870.
Good grief.. and I though 45-70 delivered a pounding.

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7 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

When did #8 and #4 become "bird shot"?

Ain't turkeys and ducks and geese birds?

 

That's what #4s are used for, right?

 

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55 minutes ago, bgavin said:

I wish he would have done a round of #1 buck.

The FBI research folks say this is the most lethal of them all.

648 grains at 1250 fps is around 46+ lbs of recoil in my 7lb 870.
Good grief.. and I though 45-70 delivered a pounding.

No. 1 buck is good but I favor #4 buck for better coverage against soft targets,  When I was at NWS Seal beach we were issued #4 buck and it was a terror at the ranges we were expected to need it.

 

BTW, we were issued Remington 870 shotguns with 28 inch barrels, too.  Had a couple of 18 ", but only 7 or 8 compared to 35 or 40 28" guns.

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:ph34r:  Plus 1 to 40.  My brother once worked with a fellow who once was associated with the Chicago mob.  He said #4 was favored because it's pattern best covered a doorway from curbside at the traditional housing of the era.

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My 870 is a 20" cylinder (deer) barrel, and maximum magazine extension.
It is intended only for bears and bad guys.

It would be interesting to pattern #1 and #4 at home defense distances.
#1 has less coverage but deeper penetration and wound channels.

I did buy a nice 28" trap barrel for the 870, but that is secondary.
After a day of trap shooting with the 870, I'm thinking a Remington V3 is in order.
My wife would like to learn, but she is recoil-averse. 
V3 is the solution for this, and the perfect rationalization for another shotgun...

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1 hour ago, bgavin said:

My 870 is a 20" cylinder (deer) barrel, and maximum magazine extension.
It is intended only for bears and bad guys.

It would be interesting to pattern #1 and #4 at home defense distances.
#1 has less coverage but deeper penetration and wound channels.

I did buy a nice 28" trap barrel for the 870, but that is secondary.
After a day of trap shooting with the 870, I'm thinking a Remington V3 is in order.
My wife would like to learn, but she is recoil-averse. 
V3 is the solution for this, and the perfect rationalization for another shotgun...

How much penetration do you need at 20 feet.?  I'd rather have more wound channels and better coverage (even  though at that distance there likely isn't much difference).

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Either way, here in Kaleeforneeyah, I would lose everything I worked for over my entire life.
This would have to be a split second decision:  be totally dead or totally ruined by the State.

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A lot of the "experts" do not recommend bird shot for home self defense, saying the shot may not penetrate to vital organs.  However, I have a hard time imagining anyone continuing a threat after receiving a load of those #4 bird shot.  Or even the #8 shot.  

As for the Winchester PDX, if they hit as hard as they kick, then someone is going down.  They are painful to shoot, at least through a short barreled SXS.

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