Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 1,186 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 How much are you using? I've been loading 3.9 grains of Trail Boss, but I have a lot more Clays that I do Trail Boss. I'd like to find a Clays load that matches the Trail Boss load for recoil if possible... Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrel Cody 5,298 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 With 3.5 gr of Clay's the recoil seems to be just a tad more than Trail Boss. But that's in a pair of 4 3/4" Rodeos; so if your guns are any heavier you probably won't notice. I like it between 3.5-4 gr of Clays myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 1,186 Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said: With 3.5 gr of Clay's the recoil seems to be just a tad more than Trail Boss. But that's in a pair of 4 3/4" Rodeos; so if your guns are any heavier you probably won't notice. I like it between 3.5-4 gr of Clays myself. I'm shooting 5 1/2" Old Model Vaquero Bisleys. I'll try that and see how it feels. Thanks! Anybody else want to chime in? Link to post Share on other sites
Widder, SASS #59054 8,707 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Charlie, I'll chime in tomorrow (or later today). It about 0130 hrs and I'm too tired to pull my data and look it over. I got data for the C45S 160 grains with Clean Shot, Clays and Red Dot. I also got some personal protection type hot loads using the Speer 185 Gold Dot with Power Pistol powder. Nice load, equivalent to the .45 Super. ..........Widder Link to post Share on other sites
Hooligan Howes 72 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I just ran across some data. 3.8 grains of Clay's for a 200 grain bullet. So 3.5 for a 160 seems about right. Link to post Share on other sites
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 1,863 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Here's some data from this forum: http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/45CS_wire_data.pdf --Dawg Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,845 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I've been using 4.2 grn. of Clays in my NMV 4 5/8" barrels and get just a tiny bit of unburnt powder. No noticeable recoil. Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 1,186 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Thanks for the info, folks. I'll give Clays a try and see how it feels... Link to post Share on other sites
Widder, SASS #59054 8,707 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 160 grain bullet Velocity results from 3.5" Vaqueros. These are 10 shot averages. CLAYS 4.1 Avg vel: 615 CLEAN SHOT 4.6 Avg vel: 640 RED DOT 4.0 Avg vel: 632 I have Choreographed and tested in both rifle and pistols the above load data. In my opinion, All of them give excellent results for Cowboy shooting. CLEAN SHOT does seem to meter better and more consistent and is my favorite. If ya wanna use the C45S for some personal defense, critter and home protection, I got a nice load using the Speer 185 gr. Gold Dot HP, equalling the performance levels of the .45 Super round. ..........Widder Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 1,186 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Thanks, Widder! Link to post Share on other sites
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