The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Supposedly. I have a close family member in Southern California who recently attempted to buy a new rife. All good, until he produced his driver's license. He had moved a couple of years ago, and although he had filed an address change with the DMV and had the official card denoting the change, the dealer would not or could not accept it, as the address on the license itself was not current. Guy makes an appointment, eventually goes to the DMV, and gets a new license in the mail two weeks later. Returns to LGS; dealer still will not accept license, as it's not a "Real ID" version. So now he had to first order an official copy of his birth certificate, make another appointment, return to DMV... He hopes he'll have the new "Real ID" license by the end of this week. Then, back to the LGS, taking his new "Real ID" driver's license, garbage bill, and Lord knows what else. So... was the dealer correct, or acting prematurely in an overabundance of caution? Doesn't matter ~ it's the image of what's to come. And it's not good. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180322/california-special-alert-update-regarding-use-of-non-real-ids-for-firearm-purchases Does his DL have the federal limit warning? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, J.D. Daily said: Remington should have never sold any Remlins until they could consistently built a quality rifle. I am sure it was management that were so eager to see a return on investment that they built-up huge negative good-will. Almost in Yugo & Trabant territory. Still-That does not change the facts about the sale of Marlin to REM, and the crap that followed. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180322/california-special-alert-update-regarding-use-of-non-real-ids-for-firearm-purchases Does his DL have the federal limit warning? OLG It did. He hadn't considered the "Real ID" a necessity. Do you have yours yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: It did. He hadn't considered the "Real ID" a necessity. Do you have yours yet? Yes-I have mine. So does the Mrs.. That fed limit wording is what stopped the sale. My other DL didn't have that wording but want the real ID. Strange, you don't need any of that DL crap to have reloading components delivered to your home. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Supposedly. I have a close family member in Southern California who recently attempted to buy a new rife. All good, until he produced his driver's license. He had moved a couple of years ago, and although he had filed an address change with the DMV and had the official card denoting the change, the dealer would not or could not accept it, as the address on the license itself was not current. Guy makes an appointment, eventually goes to the DMV, and gets a new license in the mail two weeks later. Returns to LGS; dealer still will not accept license, as it's not a "Real ID" version. So now he had to first order an official copy of his birth certificate, make another appointment, return to DMV... He hopes he'll have the new "Real ID" license by the end of this week. Then, back to the LGS, taking his new "Real ID" driver's license, garbage bill, and Lord knows what else. So... was the dealer correct, or acting prematurely in an overabundance of caution? Doesn't matter ~ it's the image of what's to come. And it's not good. I think that dealer is just being overly cautious. According to the dealer I talked to over the weekend if your license doesn’t match your address and if your car registration does match you can use the registration and existing license to buy a gun as long as you have submitted an address change for the license. You can do that on line. I have the real ID but I plan to take another form of address verification just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Can't really blame the dealer to much with the 'twists' that our DOJ throws at'em. Just take a utility bill with you(address that matches with your DL) and you're GTG. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Yes-I have mine. So does the Mrs.. That fed limit wording is what stopped the sale. My other DL didn't have that wording but want the real ID. Strange, you don't need any of that DL crap to have reloading components delivered to your home. OLG Does this still apply to 80% lowers or Glock frames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Can't really blame the dealer to much with the 'twists' that our DOJ throws at'em. Just take a utility bill with you(address that matches with your DL) and you're GTG. OLG That's why I mentioned "garbage bill..." For many years I've found it both amusing and disgusting that a California issued identification was not considered "official" enough. But a garbage bill would "fill the bill." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Bought the Marlin. Marlin 1894 CB in .357 Magnum / .38 Special. I bought it at Riflegear for $899. I pick it up in March 19th - 10 day wait. The ones they had at Riflegear had a better wood to metal fit. Don’t know why. It levered nicely but the trigger pull is a little tiny bit rough. They wouldn’t let me cycle dummy rounds in it. All in all I am very happy with my purchase. Can’t wait to pick it up and take to the range to see how it fires. I am curious. Do you really think it will cycle .38 Special well? I plan to load up some .357, not magnum loads along with some .38s to test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Try your 38's at 1.500 COAL. Won't know about the feed issue til you try it. What bullets you using? My wife's .38 CBC loves Bear Creek 158 RNFP 'slicks' with no crimp groove. They also have it in 125gn. https://www.bearcreeksupplybullets.com/38rnfp158 Bet the clock has stopped now.......... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 My wife's Marlin cycles 125 gr LTC 38s loaded to a 1.505 OAL with no problems. Same length that my 92s like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Bought the Marlin. Marlin 1894 CB in .357 Magnum / .38 Special. I bought it at Riflegear for $899. I pick it up in March 19th - 10 day wait. The ones they had at Riflegear had a better wood to metal fit. Don’t know why. It levered nicely but the trigger pull is a little tiny bit rough. They wouldn’t let me cycle dummy rounds in it. All in all I am very happy with my purchase. Can’t wait to pick it up and take to the range to see how it fires. I am curious. Do you really think it will cycle .38 Special well? I plan to load up some .357, not magnum loads along with some .38s to test it out. The Cajon Cowboys on March 23rd and the Cowboys at Norco on the 24th of March, just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: The Cajon Cowboys on March 23rd and the Cowboys at Norco on the 24th of March, just sayin. Hey Yul- When ya gonna make him one of your gun-carts? He also needs a mentor, or a supervisor/attendant.......... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Hey Yul- When ya gonna make him one of your gun-carts? He also needs a mentor, or a supervisor/attendant.......... OLG Got a cart. Don’t need a mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Got a cart. Don’t need a mentor. But is it one of Yul's spectacular carts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: The Cajon Cowboys on March 23rd and the Cowboys at Norco on the 24th of March, just sayin. Thank you. I could make the Cowboys match but I had better not. My wife’s birthday is the 24th... We’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Got a cart. Don’t need a mentor. I’m bringing my Casita (travel trailer) up to Cajon and then down to Norco for the Cowboys match, yer welcome to spend the night but we’ll have to do a little spooning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Got a cart. Don’t need a mentor. OK-What about an attendant? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wapaloosie73 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 5:03 PM, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I decided I want a new cowboy rifle. I would like it in .357. I want one made in USA. I went to the local toy store the other day for the purpose of looking at CAS rifles. I looked at the Marlin 1894 CB, the Henry Big Boy (steel) and the Winchester 1873. All brand new. I looked at the 73 just as a comparison to the other two. Prices: Winchester 1873 - $1,299 Marlin 1894 CB - $1,075 Henry Big Boy - $865 The Marlin seemed “Okay”. Levering was a little stiff but okay. The trigger had just a little hitch just before release. It looked pretty nice overall. The Henry, when laid next to the Marlin was quite impressive in fit and finish compared to the Marlin. Levering the rifle was very smooth. The trigger was crisp. The weight of the 2 guns surprised me. The Marlin because it was so light compared to the Henry. Probably by a half pound. I compared the lever throws of the 2 guns against one another. At my shoulder I felt no real difference. When me and the salesman stood them on their butts and compared the lever throw the Henry had to go just a little further than the Marlin, maybe 3 degrees. The Marlin had smooth wood and the Henry was checkered. The wood to metal fitting on the Marlin was poor. The Henry was good. If I were a newbie I would have snatched up the Henry. I am not a newbie but I am seriously considering the Henry. Why? Both are made in the USA. The Henry outshines the Marlin, big time, in a side to side comparison. The feel of the Henry is solid, perhaps due to the extra weight, but the action is much nicer. Now, I know some of you will recommend I go with a 73 or a 66 slicked up by whomever but I have made up my mind that I am buying an American made gun. I have my Vaqueros (getting my original ones back from my son-in-law) and I still have my big ol stainless 7.5” .45 Vaquero. I sold my New Vaqueros. I like the “originals” better. They feel right to me. I really do wish there were more American made options in regards to rifles. Also, I wanted to mention that my goal in CAS has nothing to do with speed or being fastest. My goal is enjoying myself with lots of fine folks that like to shoot together and have a good time doing so. If I wanted to be a top shooter I would have pushed myself for that a long time ago. I am just looking for a reliable rifle to celebrate finally getting healed up enough to get back into the game. I bought a Henry 1860. Im very impressed and would agree its light years ahead of my 1895. Wood is awesome! The Marlin is a model T you need to slick up and upgrade. Which I have! My only complaint with the Henry is no Kings gate. But thats not a problem with CAS. But it is a problem Bear hunting or defense of the camp. I guess it all depends on your plans. I bought my 1860 out of Cabelas used gun room in Post falls for 1100 bucks. I thought that was a screaming deal. A 73 is next on my list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Got a cart. Don’t need a mentor. True but you do need adult supervision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Try your 38's at 1.500 COAL. Won't know about the feed issue til you try it. What bullets you using? My wife's .38 CBC loves Bear Creek 158 RNFP 'slicks' with no crimp groove. They also have it in 125gn. https://www.bearcreeksupplybullets.com/38rnfp158 Bet the clock has stopped now.......... OLG Howdy PATRIOT. Welcome back and I think you made a good buy. I agree with Lumpy on the OAL. If your new baby is kinda 'slight of timing', the longer .38 special stuff should be enough to overcome any slow timing issue. Lumpy made you a nice offer..... take him up on it. If there is anything I might be able to help with, give me a holler also. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: I’m bringing my Casita (travel trailer) up to Cajon and then down to Norco for the Cowboys match, yer welcome to spend the night but we’ll have to do a little spooning. Thank you but I’ll pass. Besides, OLG is the spooner, I hear. I am going to shoot for The Cowboys match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Howdy PATRIOT. Welcome back and I think you made a good buy. I agree with Lumpy on the OAL. If your new baby is kinda 'slight of timing', the longer .38 special stuff should be enough to overcome any slow timing issue. Lumpy made you a nice offer..... take him up on it. If there is anything I might be able to help with, give me a holler also. ..........Widder Thank you Widder. I will. I do intend to take Lumpy up on his offer. Might even bring him some Bulleit for his nerves. I plan to shoot it some and see how it goes but I can see it needs a little TLC. Heck, it probably shoots better than I do right now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Try your 38's at 1.500 COAL. Won't know about the feed issue til you try it. What bullets you using? My wife's .38 CBC loves Bear Creek 158 RNFP 'slicks' with no crimp groove. They also have it in 125gn. https://www.bearcreeksupplybullets.com/38rnfp158 Bet the clock has stopped now.......... OLG Interesting. That is what I was going to try. 1.500”. Cool. I love Bear Creek Supply bullets. They are my favorites. I just have to unpack and see how many I have left...I better order some now. Thank you OLG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: I’m bringing my Casita (travel trailer) up to Cajon and then down to Norco for the Cowboys match, yer welcome to spend the night but we’ll have to do a little spooning. Yul, I told my wife what you said and I haven’t seen her laugh that hard in a while. I asked her if she would mind me going “cowboy shootin’ “ on her birthday and she said “Go for it.” Looks like I will be at The Cowboys match. Yeehaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Yul, I told my wife what you said and I haven’t seen her laugh that hard in a while. I asked her if she would mind me going “cowboy shootin’ “ on her birthday and she said “Go for it.” Looks like I will be at The Cowboys match. Yeehaw! Can’t wait. Get on posse 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Your money, your preference. Nothing else should matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Good on ya for the Marlin choice ~ yer gonna love it! And ditto Lumpy on Bear Creek...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I would buy the (HRA) Henry 1860 in 44/40 myself . ( if starting from scratch ) 1. American made gun ! 2. Its a 1860 ! ( The most beautiful lever rifle ever made ) 3. It will say Henry and made in America on it ! How can you go wrong with that ? Paired up with some Old Vaquero's and say a Stevens 311 SxS shot gun . WOW you would be 100% American made Cowboy Shooting . Just sayin . Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 @Tyrel Cody @BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 @The Original Lumpy Gritz @Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 @Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 @Lawman Mays @Utah Bob #35998 @Gunner Gatlin, SASS # 10274 @Sedalia Dave @Yul Lose Thank you all very much for your input and help. I do appreciate it very much. Rooster, maybe someday on the 1860. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Yul, I told my wife what you said and I haven’t seen her laugh that hard in a while. I asked her if she would mind me going “cowboy shootin’ “ on her birthday and she said “Go for it.” Looks like I will be at The Cowboys match. Yeehaw! This means pictures, or it didn't happen........... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 6:30 PM, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Interesting. That is what I was going to try. 1.500”. Cool. I love Bear Creek Supply bullets. They are my favorites. I just have to unpack and see how many I have left...I better order some now. Thank you OLG. I would order now, the SS mag follower. The SS mag spring wouldn't be a bad idea either....... http://www.slickmagicguns.com/SlickMercantile.html OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I would order now, the SS mag follower. The SS mag spring wouldn't be a bad idea either....... http://www.slickmagicguns.com/SlickMercantile.html OLG Thank you. Good idea. Do you recommend the Competition Spring Kit and the one piece firing pin as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Thank you. Good idea. Do you recommend the Competition Spring Kit and the one piece firing pin as well? Yes- Also-get a couple of #10 AN washers in case you need to stiffen the hammer spring up. Go with the steel FP. If you have any feed issues-Look hard at the Ranger Point Precision extractor. https://www.rangerpointstore.com/shop-all/marlin-1894-feed-issues-m-94-extractor-claw-2017-all-new-design/ OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just an added note. I saw that RifleGear had put the Marlin 1894CB on sale for $839.00 yesterday. I called them this morning and asked if I could get the sale price. They said "Yes" and gave me a $60 store credit. That's pretty cool. I will take the store credit. I need some more Glock mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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