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Golly Jim, you should have said something. We would have taken a collection for the funds.:ph34r:

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Nice!!!!

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Cars used to have round headlights. Then in the mid-70s they went to rectangular headlights, remember? The new jeeps also had the rectangular headlights like all the other cars. And, the new jeeps were crappy when it came to off-road driving. They were, basically, street cars that looked like a Jeep.

 

The word got around - REAL JEEPS have round headlights. This bit of off-road lore was causing Jeep sales to drop. People weren't buying the new jeeps, because they didn't trust the new jeeps.

 

So, even though every other car on the road had rectangular headlights, Jeep went back to putting round headlights on their new cars. And sales went back up.

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25 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Cars used to have round headlights. Then in the mid-70s they went to rectangular headlights, remember? The new jeeps also had the rectangular headlights like all the other cars. And, the new jeeps were crappy when it came to off-road driving. They were, basically, street cars that looked like a Jeep.

 

The word got around - REAL JEEPS have round headlights. This bit of off-road lore was causing Jeep sales to drop. People weren't buying the new jeeps, because they didn't trust the new jeeps.

 

So, even though every other car on the road had rectangular headlights, Jeep went back to putting round headlights on their new cars. And sales went back up.

I don’t know about all of the rectangular headlight Jeeps being crappy. I had an 86 Wrangler Sahara that I used for mountaintop access and the last 16 miles to the peak was boulder hopping off roading  and that Jeep did it without a hiccup. Got stuck and high centered a few times but the Warn winch on the front bumper took care of that. One draw back that they did have was one of the vacuum lines was located underneath the battery and when battery acid spilled on the rubber vacuum line it caused it to crack and break but it was easy to fix. I visited that site about four times a month for 4 years in that Jeep. I could almost drive it with my eyes closed, almost.

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54 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Cars used to have round headlights. Then in the mid-70s they went to rectangular headlights, remember? The new jeeps also had the rectangular headlights like all the other cars. And, the new jeeps were crappy when it came to off-road driving. They were, basically, street cars that looked like a Jeep.

 

The word got around - REAL JEEPS have round headlights. This bit of off-road lore was causing Jeep sales to drop. People weren't buying the new jeeps, because they didn't trust the new jeeps.

 

So, even though every other car on the road had rectangular headlights, Jeep went back to putting round headlights on their new cars. And sales went back up.

CJs had round headlights, YJs had rectangular, the TJs had round and the current ones are also round. I used to do a lot of off-roading in my TJ with a Jeep club whose members mostly owned YJs. They were excellent vehicles along with the others and nobody cared about the headlights. I don’t know anything about crappy Jeeps and flagging sales. They went back to round as a styling exercise as the other style was looking dated after a number of years in production. 

 

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Excellent, Jim!

 

I'm one of those guys waving when you approach; mine is a 2013 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara, in black.  We've always had at least one Jeep in the family since 1983; Wranglers, Cherokees, Grand Cherokees, and even a Liberty Limited.  Just started looking at replacements for the 2013, but shocked by the price increase - to replace our current Jeep (which cost about $35K, loaded, in 2013), the tag is now over $50K!!   With aggressive factory rebates, I can get a fully loaded Grand Cherokee Limited for substantially LESS money!  We may be swinging back to that model.

 

Have fun!

 

LL

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Since you're posting Jeep porn, here's a few more. The CJ8 was my baby many years ago in Arizona. Sadly in a moment of stupidity, I sold it after moving here to Indiana. 

The wife got her dream Jeep in 2017. It's a 2017 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hardrock Edition. She has since bought an electric convertible top for it.

My baby is the 2006 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. It is a unicorn and I think something like only 1,600 units like mine were made. And it currently only has 16,000 miles.

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My first new vehicle that I bought was a 75 CJ 5. $5,000 dollars .  Every thing on it was an option except the drivers seat.....the passengers seat, back seat , doors, top, back bumper all were options. You had to be young and dumb to drive it on the interstate, but I loved that Jeep. I even owned a jeep J10 pickup.

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Very nice! It will be pretty hard to miss on the road.

 

I've also owned a few jeeps over the years, and even though my next vehicle will likely be a Subaru or something along those lines, I will forever have a soft spot for them. I really like the looks of the upcoming Jeep Gladiator, and will be going to look at them when they hit the lot, just because.

 

Here's me and Mrs. Doc when we just dating, on a camping trip in S.E. Kentucky in my '77 Cherokee.

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I had one just like it only in green. Sure wish I still had it, I sold it when we sold our last mountaintop communications site.

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17 hours ago, Alpo said:

Cars used to have round headlights. Then in the mid-70s they went to rectangular headlights, remember? The new jeeps also had the rectangular headlights like all the other cars. And, the new jeeps were crappy when it came to off-road driving. They were, basically, street cars that looked like a Jeep.

 

The word got around - REAL JEEPS have round headlights. This bit of off-road lore was causing Jeep sales to drop. People weren't buying the new jeeps, because they didn't trust the new jeeps.

 

So, even though every other car on the road had rectangular headlights, Jeep went back to putting round headlights on their new cars. And sales went back up.

 

The Jeep Cherokee (XJ) always had rectangular headlights and it was just as off-road capable as the CJs and Wranglers. Jeep didn't turn into crap until Daimler-Chrysler decided to kill off the XJ and replace it with the Liberty, which was only good for taking kids to soccer practice. They followed that up with the even worse Compass and Patriot, and ended up having to come up with that stupid "Trail Rated" badge system just to designate models sufficiently beefed up so as to not break a ball joint going over rough terrain. When Fiat bought out Jeep and Chrysler things only got worse, with the emphasis on vehicles meant only for comfortable street driving while giving their owners the impression that they were driving something rugged and manly. For most of these people going "off-road" means riding up a curb.

 

Fortunately the old hands still remaining at Jeep managed to keep Sergio Marchionne and his bean counters from ruining the Wrangler, which they nearly did. The new Wrangler pickup looks interesting, but unfortunately the clock is ticking on true off-road capable vehicles like the Wrangler as safety and environmental standards become more stringent.

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Got about 600 miles on it now and absolutely love it.  Wish I had got one long ago.  I had a first gen Bronco

in the 1980's and did a lot of off roading.   Best part is if it is cold ,  heated seat and steering wheel come

on automatically.   Great computer screen that I can actually figure out.   As to slamming the doors, they

are aluminum and very  light.   Yes, I will do some off roading.

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On 2/21/2019 at 5:48 AM, Rancho Roy said:

I shot trap yesterday with a fellow that had this full blown custom job built in AZ.  Amazing attention to detail and I would guess we'll over 80$k

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And yet, not one rub mark on a tire sidewall......:huh:

OLG

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There are two kinds of tricked-up off-road vehicles. The ones that have been driven to Hell and back and look like it, and the ones with $50,000 in custom mods that rarely ever see a speck of dirt.

 

EDIT: Actually I forgot a third kind: the hybrid that's been meticulously taken care of, but appears to have had fake mud sprayed on it to make it LOOK like it's been to Hell and back! <_<

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My '7' has been on lots of very serious rock trails over the last 34yrs.

Couple of body 'kisses' and lots of scuffed sidewalls is all you'll see.

Lots of 'rock-rash' underneath that I knock down about once a year with a disc grinder.

OLG

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Howdy,

I had a car that got resprayed and or buffed out often.

I took battle scars home but never to the track.

I got pretty good at driveway body work.

Best

CR

 

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