Hells Comin Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Why does federal shot shell low recoil have a copper looking primer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Because They can.................. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 I've only seen the chrome looking ones. (Federal ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 what difference does it make ? seriously , not being flip , not my style , is there a difference ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 This is a good catch. I never noticed it before but happened to have a "new" box of Federal metros on hand to look at ... and ... sure enough they have the copper centers. The Federal 209's I use for reloading don't. Doing some searching I ended up at a few trap shooting / shotgun sites and they mentioned this showing up on some Winchester AAs as well. Besides the concerns of the quality difference between factory primers and those sold for reloading ... everyone seemed to think is was a great way to determine if you were picking up a "once fired" or "reloaded" hull. I have been reloading my metros exclusively lately ... now I can pick out the first timers .... ha ... Thanks for the tip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G W Wade Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 There has been some discussions about the merging between Federal and CCI. Wonder if the fed metro loads could be coming with CCI primers as the results of this. I generally sort out hulls by color of primers like Patagonia Pete said. As far as shotgun primers I do wonder about some. I have friends (really) that cannot shoot factory WW LRLN but can reload WW hulls with WW primers and everything is fine. Anyone else notice this. I have only been using Cheddite primers because the are available cheap and have not had any problems. GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Hells Comin said: Why does federal shot shell low recoil have a copper looking primer? Why is the SKY BLUE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Texas jack Black SASS#9362 said: Why is the SKY BLUE? When I ask my kids that they always tell me it's not, it's clear. A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colours because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Actually the sky appears Blue because it absorbs all colors except blue which reflects back and our retina sees the Blue light . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Thus, the famous Blue Light Specials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Cheaper for the primer maker not hav'n to plate them. The silver color is a plating.......... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Texas jack Black SASS#9362 said: Actually the sky appears Blue because it absorbs all colors except blue which reflects back and our retina sees the Blue light . And here I thought it was because Mother Nature wanted to match your purdy blue eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Cheaper for the primer maker not hav'n to plate them. The silver color is a plating.......... OLG Actually every color but silver remember the color you see is not the real color it is every color except silver. Man I can not wait for winter to be over 38 days to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Let's go!! Shootin' for three pages!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Tell me why the stars do shine Tell me why the ivy twines Tell me why the sky's so blue And then I'll tell you just why I love you Because God made the stars to shine Because God made the ivy twine Because God made the sky's so blue Because God made you, that's why I love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G W Wade Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Matthew, I had NO idea you felt this way, Damn I am getting tired of snow and winter in that order GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 In my best Slim Pickins voice "Why Mathew - you talk prettier than a $20 .........." ahh - never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit Joe #414 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Geeeez I guess we will have another fantastic day on the wire. Waaa, Haw. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jackrabbit Joe #414 said: Geeeez I guess we will have another fantastic day on the wire. Waaa, Haw. LOL You bet!! Hey!! Congratulations on your 30 years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit Joe #414 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Thanks Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 8:59 PM, watab kid said: what difference does it make ? seriously , not being flip , not my style , is there a difference ? Well apparently the brass color one are the older standard primers and the silver 209A's are hotter ( Magnum) primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 1:02 PM, Marauder SASS #13056 said: Thus, the famous Blue Light Specials! HuhI remember the Blue Plate Special down at Woolworths...…..countertop and bar stools. Meatloaf day was almost as good as two hot dogs or hamburger steak 'n gravy Yum...Yum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beartrap SASS#57175 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Is it snowing in Arizona again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Beartrap SASS#57175 said: Is it snowing in Arizona again? No it only snows the week of WR. 73° now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hell Scummin.. I think it might be part of the New Shooter's Handbook that requires all primers in Low Recoil Shot Shells made by Federal to be Copper Coated. Snakebite Enjoyed shooting with you at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 well lets see - copper is softer than brass -aluminum-steel so it might seat smoother in the pocket , might be a semi lube thing with brass as next , im no metallurgist but that seems an idea , i like their primers and use them , but ive used the others and had no real issues over the years , just my 2 cents , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD, SASS 28309 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 7:16 PM, Hells Comin said: Why does federal shot shell low recoil have a copper looking primer? Because copper corrodes, so use them or loose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostVaquero Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 10:38 AM, Texas jack Black SASS#9362 said: Actually the sky appears Blue because it absorbs all colors except blue which reflects back and our retina sees the Blue light . Sorry nope has to do with the frequency. Shorter frequency of blue over red scatters more from its interactions with the gas molecules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, LostVaquero said: Sorry nope has to do with the frequency. Shorter frequency of blue over red scatters more from its interactions with the gas molecules. Sorry, just as an apple is not red it is all colors except red The red frequency is bounced of the apple which is what we see . The sky is not Blue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostVaquero Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Texas jack Black SASS#9362 said: Sorry, just as an apple is not red it is all colors except red The red frequency is bounced of the apple which is what we see . The sky is not Blue . It appears blue due to frequency scattering. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-the-sky-blue/ https://scijinks.gov/blue-sky/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, LostVaquero said: It appears blue due to frequency scattering. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-the-sky-blue/ https://scijinks.gov/blue-sky/ Yes' it appears blue but is not blue we see the color that it not absorbing which means the sky is every color except blue. Best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Y'all are making my head hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus A. Gnatsass, SASS #71705 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Marshal Hangtree said: Y'all are making my head hurt. Part of that blue/not blue/frequency scattered/absorbed sky must have fallen and konked ya on tha noggin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hey Phil, isn't it wonderful when you try to find out something technical and a bunch of yahoos hijack your thread. I was going to use another word for yahoos, but I knew the Moderators would shut me down. This is why a lot of shooters will not read the Wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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