Colorado Coffinmaker Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 First step is to realize the rifles come from the manufacturer with rust in the Mag Tube. Second step is to get that "no extra cost rust" completely out of the tube. Then treat the inside of the tube with a rust inhibitor/lube like One Shot or Boeshield T-9, and some other treatments/waxes. Then a Stainless Spring and Follower. and. KEEP IT CLEAN In some climates, it won't hurt to remove the Magazine Plug between matches. KEEP IT CLEAN PS: When you put a liner in the tube, you just get rust between the liner and inside of the tube. You will still need to get in there and get after it on a real regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I live in Ontario, Canada, where it gets quite humid in summer. (In winter, not so much - we have to use humidifiers to add moisture to the dry air.) I just pass a swab with #9 Hoppes down the mag tubes every other time I clean the rifles. I store them in Bore Store bags from Brownells and run a de humidifier (summer) in my gun room with a silica desiccant device in the safe itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarillo Rattler Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Only Black Powder for 12 years plus. 1st step in cleaning is packing the bottom of the carrier with a wad of paper towel at the follower level before spraying the diluted Windex with vinegar down the chamber and muzzle. Wait 5-10 minutes to clean the bore( Remington Squeegee, then 10 strokes of wet nylon brush, then 5 dry patches, then Bore Butter on a bore swab). Remove the moist paper towel from the bottom of the carrier. Wipe all surfaces with a dry paper towel patch held with a hemostat. Spray the receiver with Eezox. Has worked for 10 years plus for me. Clean as a WHISTLE! Amarillo Rattler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 PM sent to Nickle city about TX taxes. Do not want to highjack the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:25 PM, Nawlins Kid said: What is your favorite method of preventing rust in a rifle magazine. This is my go to. https://www.amazon.com/Birchwood-Casey-Barricade-Preventive-Aerosol/dp/B004I9MFHU Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Here is the problem with rust in the magazine tubes and why a stainless spring won’t solve the problem. As Coffinmaker said, a lot of the Italian rifles seem to come with the mag tubes pre-rusted. The reason is that some of the residue from the blueing salts wasn’t flushed from the tube. When the tube is cleaned with a petroleum based cleaner, the salt residue is NOT removed because salt is not soluble in petroleum products. Salt IS soluble in water. To to prevent rust in your magazine tube, clean it like you would clean a black powder rifle - with hot soapy water. You only have to clean it once like this to remove all of the salt residue. After that keep it clean and lubed or waxed or whatever is your preference and it will stay rust free. Also clean the stock magazine spring with the hot soapy water the same way and you won’t need a stainless spring. Salt is hygroscopic, meaning that it attracts and absorbs moisture from the air. If you just cover the salt residue, it will still attract moisture as soon as the cover wears off. I live in Florida, which is about as humid as it gets. My hunting guns, including guns that I duck hunted with never had a problem with the mag tube rusting. Some of my ‘97 shotguns and original ‘73 and ‘92 Winchester’s are over 100 years old and were used hard in a humid Florida climate. None of them have rusting problems in their magazine tubes. My Uberti ‘73’s did have rust problems in the mag tubes until I cleaned them with hot soapy water. Now, no more problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Dutch, SASS # 7995 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 3:59 PM, Widder, SASS #59054 said: 1. use a stainless spring and stainless follower if possible. 2. wax the inside of the tube with carnuba wax and polish it dry. 3. minimize your moisture problems. 4. try not to handle your ammo with sweaty, wet hands. 5. do not store your rifles (or pistols) in a rug. ..........Widder After doing this for 25+ years I found this is what worked best for me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keystone, SASS # 47578 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 said: Here is the problem with rust in the magazine tubes and why a stainless spring won’t solve the problem. As Coffinmaker said, a lot of the Italian rifles seem to come with the mag tubes pre-rusted. The reason is that some of the residue from the blueing salts wasn’t flushed from the tube. When the tube is cleaned with a petroleum based cleaner, the salt residue is NOT removed because salt is not soluble in petroleum products. Salt IS soluble in water. To to prevent rust in your magazine tube, clean it like you would clean a black powder rifle - with hot soapy water. You only have to clean it once like this to remove all of the salt residue. After that keep it clean and lubed or waxed or whatever is your preference and it will stay rust free. Also clean the stock magazine spring with the hot soapy water the same way and you won’t need a stainless spring. Salt is hygroscopic, meaning that it attracts and absorbs moisture from the air. If you just cover the salt residue, it will still attract moisture as soon as the cover wears off. I live in Florida, which is about as humid as it gets. My hunting guns, including guns that I duck hunted with never had a problem with the mag tube rusting. Some of my ‘97 shotguns and original ‘73 and ‘92 Winchester’s are over 100 years old and were used hard in a humid Florida climate. None of them have rusting problems in their magazine tubes. My Uberti ‘73’s did have rust problems in the mag tubes until I cleaned them with hot soapy water. Now, no more problem. Well, I tried just about every method folks have suggested with the exception of hot soapy water. I'll give it a try after my next match. The post is free, the advice is free, so what do I have to lose. Thank you Sam. Hasta Luego, Keystone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Has anyone used a rust converter, as used in the automotive industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Fe River Stan,36999L Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 said: Here is the problem with rust in the magazine tubes and why a stainless spring won’t solve the problem. As Coffinmaker said, a lot of the Italian rifles seem to come with the mag tubes pre-rusted. The reason is that some of the residue from the blueing salts wasn’t flushed from the tube. When the tube is cleaned with a petroleum based cleaner, the salt residue is NOT removed because salt is not soluble in petroleum products. Salt IS soluble in water. To to prevent rust in your magazine tube, clean it like you would clean a black powder rifle - with hot soapy water. You only have to clean it once like this to remove all of the salt residue. After that keep it clean and lubed or waxed or whatever is your preference and it will stay rust free. Also clean the stock magazine spring with the hot soapy water the same way and you won’t need a stainless spring. Salt is hygroscopic, meaning that it attracts and absorbs moisture from the air. If you just cover the salt residue, it will still attract moisture as soon as the cover wears off. I live in Florida, which is about as humid as it gets. My hunting guns, including guns that I duck hunted with never had a problem with the mag tube rusting. Some of my ‘97 shotguns and original ‘73 and ‘92 Winchester’s are over 100 years old and were used hard in a humid Florida climate. None of them have rusting problems in their magazine tubes. My Uberti ‘73’s did have rust problems in the mag tubes until I cleaned them with hot soapy water. Now, no more problem. Sam told me this years ago and it has worked for me..... Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Rust converters will remove bluing. Some build up and leave a coating that is thick enough I would be hesitant. If you scrub out the rust, a simple way to reduce future rusting is to season the metal by warming it up and wiping it down with a vegetable based oil and then bake the part for 20 minutes at 350. Place it at an angle so any excess oil drains out while cooking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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