The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Brazos Bo said: Hodgdon has data specifically for Cowboy Action loads that are different than standard pistol data. Is this from the Hodgdon site? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Is this from the Hodgdon site? OLG Yes, it is. That's why I commented to load closer to the middle at 3gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, Tyrel Cody said: Yes, it is. That's why I commented to load closer to the middle at 3gr. TNX For some reason the page won't show on my 'puter. Can't find a 'cowboy' load section........ OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: TNX For some reason the page won't show on my 'puter. Can't find a 'cowboy' load section........ OLG It's just under the regular load data, I haven't seen a Cowboy load section in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said: It's just under the regular load data, I haven't seen a Cowboy load section in a long time. OK-Found it-Had ro roll the screen and open it. I was wrong-That 2.9gn load is within specs from 125-158gn lead bullet. TNX for the education. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Bo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 They certainly don't make it the easiest to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blast Masterson Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 4:37 PM, Shanghai said: Yes, I’d like to reduce recoil with pistols. I’m clean with my rifle but too many misses with the pistol. It’s the main reason I’m changing to 125 after shooting 158 for so many years. I need to slow down and keep on the front sight and lower recoil should help. I think the two load option is best for me. I’ll stay with 158 for knockdowns and see how the 125 recoil feels for reduced recoil. Now I’m thinking 105s. Hey Tully, next time I see you if you have a few 105s I can try, I’d appreciate it. Thanks for the offer. And thanks to all on this forum for helping me through this bullet change. I’m a creature of habit so changing my old load is a big deal and you all have made me feel confident about it. I would recommend that you change one thing at a time and determine the change in results before experimenting further. What you did with 158's has nothing to do when you want to make a 105 round. If your trying to improve accuracy with pistols by changing bullets, I think your going about this in the wrong direction, unless the reason you missed is because the cartridge did not fire properly, or consistently. Then the rifle would likely have the same problems. This does not appear to be your case. Your shooting <10 yds with pistols in most cases. At that range, you can hit the target with just a magnum primer. It is not likely that your misses are about trajectory of your bullets. Trying to download your cartridges in power for recoil, will likely create more problems than your experiencing now. Going lite is more than just lighter bullets and powder loads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 7:01 PM, Shanghai said: Tyrel, that’s more powder than I was using with the 158. Part of my reason for transitioning is reduced recoil. 3 grains seems high. But I will increase my OAL. My thanks. Increasing the OAl length will decrease velocity and pressure .... All things being equal you Increase Powder Charges as you Decrease bullet weights and use less powder with heavyer bullets .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanghai Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 I have learned enough here to go ahead and start reloading my new stash of 125 bullets. I now understand why powder charges will increase with lighter bullets and will go with Tyrel’s original recommendation of 3 (2.9 - 3..1) grains of clays. I’ll start with a col of 1.475 and ensure a good crimp which I do with a separate crimp die. II’ll start with the 125 rnfp and not move to TC or 105s until I have enough experience to make that decision. Thanks to Blast (and others) for that wise advice. I’ll check for any hitch in my rifle, how clean/dirty the round shoots and the level of recoil in my pistols. I’m hoping with less recoil, I’ll be able to get back on target quicker and spend a little more time lining up my front sight before triggering and moving on to the next target. Hopefully, that will translate to less pistol misses without losing time. Again, thank you all for your advice and taking the time to share it. There is so much experience on this board.. Special thanks to Fast enuff and Marshall Chance for their kind thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Load up about 15rnds at that COAL, and confirm you have no cycling issues in you rifle. If it cycles fine-You're GTG. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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