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Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461

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I saw on local news some proposed regulations for  WA and OR regarding

5  rd magazine limits with the new reg to only be able to purchase 20 rds a month!?

 

Can this really be happening?

WA and OR pards please  chime in and explain further as

it was just a 2 minute tease on our local news.

 

my thanks in advance

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When stupid people vote in stupid representatives, we get stupid prizes that insults, restricts and impedes the law abiding citizens!!!

 

All I can hope for is there are still some level heads in those states that can make sure this dies very quickly before it gains any headway.

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Wonder if that means I can only buy 1/100 lb of Bullseye per month? And shoot just one stage a month? 

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21 hours ago, Deacon Henry, SASS #53503L said:

Yes it’s happening. In PA and VA and federally among others. 

Where in PA? If you’re talking about Pittsburgh the state has a preemption law already on the books that prohibit local government from making gun laws. Anything the idiot mayor of Pittsburgh introduces will be unenforceable. 

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Not in Virginia. Maybe in DC but we have constructed a wall to keep that in and out of our fine state. 

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Yes hundreds of Bills are introduced and many don't see daylight but I am in NY and what may be far off track becomes reality. Don't want to get into a big political discussion here but this type of legislation is not just a NY thing. Best regards and keep the faith, your pard, Deacon Henry

Check your NRA_ILA sites also Bearing Arms. The NRA site as you all probably know is a State by State tracking of new legislation. 

 

VA This session:

RICHMOND, Va. (WSET) -- Governor Ralph Northam has announced a comprehensive package of legislation that he claims will prevent gun violence and improve the safety of Virginia’s citizens and communities. 

 

He said the package includes measures to require universal background checks; establish an Extreme Risk Protective Order; reinstate Virginia’s One Handgun a Month law; prohibit individuals subject to final protective orders from possessing firearms; ban assault firearms; prevent children from accessing firearms; and require individuals to report lost or stolen firearms to law enforcement.

 

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Pennsylvania Governor Calls for Total Ban on all Semi-Automatic Weapons

by JORDAN MICHAELS on JANUARY 10, 2019

Related Tags: Buzz, Gun Control, News, R2KBA

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Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf believes no one should have semi-automatic firearms. (Photo: Governor Tom Wolf Facebook)

Just one day after a gun-rights rally in Pittsburgh that attracted hundreds of gun owners protesting the city’s proposed “assault weapons” ban, Democratic Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf voiced his support for a complete ban on all semi-automatic weapons.

When asked by KDKR Newsradio host Larry Richert whether the state of Pennsylvania should restrict or eliminate semi-automatic weapons, Gov. Wolf responded, “I think they should. I support that. Those are the weapons that killed those innocent people in Squirrel Hill and have done so much damage in schools and in places all around the country. We shouldn’t have those [guns].”

Though Wolf incorporates all semi-automatic firearms in his answer to Richert’s question (the Squirrel Hill murderer used handguns and a rifle), he walked back his stance later that day in a tweet that only mentioned “semi-automatic rifles.”

 

The governor doesn’t want to take away anyone’s guns, of course. Later in the segment, Richert commented, “People from one side or the other go to the complete extreme – you’re trying to take away my weapons, and that’s not the case.”

“No,” Wolf agreed.

And yet, the head of Pennsylvania’s executive branch hopes the state legislature will implement restrictions on gun ownership similar to those proposed by Pittsburgh’s city council, which include a ban on some semi-automatic rifles.

SEE ALSO: Key Case Challenging Fed Ban of Handgun Sales to Non-State Residents Gains Momentum

As GunsAmerica reported previously, Pittsburgh Mayor William Peduto recently announced a trio of gun rights restrictions, including an “assault weapons” ban, an accessories/magazine/ammunition ban, and a gun confiscation scheme. Peduto’s announcement is likely nothing more than grandstanding because Pennsylvania state law prohibits local governments from passing ordinances that contradict state law.

But Gov. Wolf hopes the legislature will sign on to Peduto’s proposals.

“I mean even the president is talking about eliminating, making bump stocks illegal. I think we ought to have a universal background check,” he said on KDKR. “We should not have people (with) easy access to the weapons that killed all those innocent victims in Squirrel Hill. We’re all in different ways trying to figure out what is the way to recognize the rights of gun owners but also make ourselves safe. I think this is a good conversation to have.”

It’s unclear whether Wolf will be able to implement his gun ban dreams. Republicans have a 21-seat majority in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and a 7-seat majority in the Senate.

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Yes, it is proposed.  Drafted by a bunch of clueless Lake Oswego high school students who aren't even old enough to own a gun much less vote, and forwarded to Representative Andrea Salinas. Democrat - District 38 - Lake Oswego. .

 

https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2019R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB501/Introduced

 

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The Pennsylvania governor is exactly right: "We shouldn't have those(guns)" People who attempt to subvert our constitution should NOT have ANY means in which to do so, especially the power they claim. Legally obtained firearms belong to the patriots who will (and HAVE) stand up to tyrants and dictators. These proposals are VERY serious and must be defeated at all costs. MY two sense.

Yes, I know...

 

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Evil does not give up.  It must be defeated - again and again.

 

We go on and live our lives. 

 

The socialistic dictator party members for the most part work day and night to do what they want even though it will not achieve the results most of them want.

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Patrick Henry, Virginia's Constitution ratification convention, June 5, 1788

 

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force." 


"Where and when did freedom exist when the power of the sword and purse were given up from the people?" 

 

 

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This is what happens when folks who don't understand nor want understand gun culture write gun laws. 

 

An example of the problem...  My Ma is liberal and wants gun control.  I showed her an "assault style" rifle and another rifle with wood stock.  Asked her which should be banned.  Naturally she picked the "assault" rifle.  I told her choice outlines the problem.  "It's the same gun ma.  You just banned the scary looking one and solved nothing.  That's why your team writing gun laws is just plain dumb."  They were both a Ruger 10/22 haha.  One was stock and the other had a fancy stock, banana mag, dot sight and flash suppressor (terrifying!).

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2 hours ago, Doc Shapiro said:

These laws are never about crime, or “feel good”. They are about banning guns so the elites can take over. Plain and simple. Never forget, never surrender. 

 

Exactly. 100%.

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3 hours ago, Doc Shapiro said:

These laws are never about crime, or “feel good”. They are about banning guns so the elites can take over. Plain and simple. Never forget, never surrender. 

It's about hav'n control over others-Plain and simple.;)

OLG

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6 hours ago, Half Deaf Hoss Deveraux said:

This is what happens when folks who don't understand nor want understand gun culture write gun laws. 

 

An example of the problem...  My Ma is liberal and wants gun control.  I showed her an "assault style" rifle and another rifle with wood stock.  Asked her which should be banned.  Naturally she picked the "assault" rifle.  I told her choice outlines the problem.  "It's the same gun ma.  You just banned the scary looking one and solved nothing.  That's why your team writing gun laws is just plain dumb."  They were both a Ruger 10/22 haha.  One was stock and the other had a fancy stock, banana mag, dot sight and flash suppressor (terrifying!).

 

Welcome aboard!  That said, what the hell is "gun culture" and what's it got to do with it?  What they're after is power and control.  They know exactly what they're doing and why.  The only thing standing between a Constitutional Republic and an Authoritarian regime is 80 million gun owners.  They know it.  They're hoping we don't.  Never lose sight of that.

 

Mao was once asked why China didn't invade the US.  His response was "there's a rifle behind every blade of grass."

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As Doc and others have said, this is merely a step to totally control people.

 

As you watch they now openly admit that each of the laws is "a beginning."

 

Their leadership doesn't believe in many things we hold dear:

  • The right of ownership of property
  • The right to speak out for our beliefs
  • The right of privacy
  • Right to life itself

 

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1 hour ago, Doc Shapiro said:

 

Welcome aboard!  That said, what the hell is "gun culture" and what's it got to do with it?  What they're after is power and control.  They know exactly what they're doing and why.  The only thing standing between a Constitutional Republic and an Authoritarian regime is 80 million gun owners.  They know it.  They're hoping we don't.  Never lose sight of that.

 

Mao was once asked why China didn't invade the US.  His response was "there's a rifle behind every blade of grass."

That quote was not made by Mao.

 

Believe it was found in government doc at the end of WWII (Japanese), and concerned the topic of invading the US mainland.

 

Agree with the rest of your post;)

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27 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

That quote was not made by Mao.

 

Believe it was found in government doc at the end of WWII (Japanese), and concerned the topic of invading the US mainland.

 

Agree with the rest of your post;)

 

I just looked it up.  You're right.  It was Yamamoto.

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Doesn't really matter who said it... it was said. They knew it, the oligarchs that run the world know it. Do we?

Do we as a people know that every firearm in private (responsible) ownership is one more deterrent to regimes that will tell us what to do, where to go (or not) and when?

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  I'll do what I've done for years.   Ignore it

  There is not one (1) law enforecemnt agency in Wa. state  that will enforce the bad law we got with I 594 passed 4 years ago.  I'm betting no one will enforce any crazy new law that's outright unconstitutional. 

  Keep voting for them democracts:angry:

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 Know ‘ll get flamed but  I was employed by a fairly lg sheriffs dept if you think LE’s will not enforce you need a wake up

am I risking my job and my pension, my family’s security, to NOT enforce any such laws....... think again

 All these County Sheriffs spouting they won’t enforce any such laws will be quickly terminated if they do not

When Cali passed thir  bans anyone who had any license within/ from the state, ie cpa, contractors, etc.,  could lose ther license for most any firearms  related offense

If such laws pass they will be enforced, sad but true

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22 minutes ago, Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 said:

 Know ‘ll get flamed but  I was employed by a fairly lg sheriffs dept if you think LE’s will not enforce you need a wake up

am I risking my job and my pension, my family’s security, to NOT enforce any such laws....... think again

 All these County Sheriffs spouting they won’t enforce any such laws will be quickly terminated if they do not

When Cali passed thir  bans anyone who had any license within/ from the state, ie cpa, contractors, etc.,  could lose ther license for most any firearms  related offense

If such laws pass they will be enforced, sad but true

  Well, I'm retired from a fairly big dept and I'll tell you, there is not a police chief nor sheriff in this state that is enforcing these laws.  Remember "I was just following orders"  is not a defense, they tried that at Nuremburg remember?

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5 hours ago, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said:

Doesn't really matter who said it... it was said. They knew it, the oligarchs that run the world know it. Do we?

Do we as a people know that every firearm in private (responsible) ownership is one more deterrent to regimes that will tell us what to do, where to go (or not) and when?

Of course it doesn't... Accuracy in history is meaningless.

 

Oy ..

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