Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Howdy I know one of the Chinese 1887 copies was better than the other. Refresh my memory was it the IAC or the Norinco & the reasons..thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Everybody says IAC, I have a 4th Gen Norinco that has been a tank. Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 said: Everybody says IAC, I have a 4th Gen Norinco that has been a tank. Imis 1887, not 97. IAC and Norinco may be the same, can't remember. IAC made a couple versions. One model had Coyote Cap Special Edition stamped on it, the other didn't. Either of these make good guns with action work done. I think the IAC's handle better. If you can find a Coyote Cap Special edition grab one. If you can find a way to send it to Lassiter and have him put his Load Two mod in it they're even better. I don't think IAC makes an 87 copy any longer. I've seen used ones go from $450 up to $900, depending on action job and who did it. Chiappa is now making what they call a Fast Load model. They work pretty good from the factory, but still need some polishing and fine tuning. The Chiappas are a tad heavier and overall better finished gun. The fast load model is around $1100 new and they make another model without fast load for around $1000 new. CAI is currently making a PW87, these are the ones that have a billboard stamped on the left side of the receiver. They handle similar to the IAC, but fit and finish is rough and they need a LOT of help. Can be purchased new for around $300. There was also one made by Zhong Zhou Machineworks that we’re about the same quality as the newer PW87. I’d probably skip those. After a little more digging it looks like IAC is the parent company of this one too; regardless you don’t want one with Zhong Zhou stamped on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 My bad Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 get a couple of each CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 PM-Please confirm you a talking about the '87 lever SG, and not the '87 hammered SxS. IAC and Norinco are one in the same from the same factory in China. IAC and Norinco are/were importers only........ No more '87 levers or 97 pumps are coming from China. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Drifter Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: PM-Please confirm you a talking about the '87 lever SG, and not the '87 hammered SxS. IAC and Norinco are one in the same from the same factory in China. IAC and Norinco are/were importers only........ No more '87 levers or 97 pumps are coming from China. OLG Isn’t the hammered shotgun a 78 not an 87? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hillbilly Drifter said: Isn’t the hammered shotgun a 78 not an 87? Think ya be 'rite'. TNX, OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: PM-Please confirm you a talking about the '87 lever SG, and not the '87 hammered SxS. IAC and Norinco are one in the same from the same factory in China. IAC and Norinco are/were importers only........ No more '87 levers or 97 pumps are coming from China. OLG Yes there are, CAI is making the latest PW87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Tyrel Cody said: Yes there are, CAI is making the latest PW87. Didn't those come from the same factory as the CC '87 and '97s? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Didn't those come from the same factory as the CC '87 and '97s? OLG Don't think so, Century Arms International is a different company and still available new at places like Buds, Academy Sports, Zanders, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 Thanks guys..I have a mate with a IAC '87 lever short barrel that he will part with but I haven't seen it yet so I will check it over before I decide. ..he says it has the load 2 mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said: Thanks guys..I have a mate with a IAC '87 lever short barrel that he will part with but I haven't seen it yet so I will check it over before I decide. ..he says it has the load 2 mod. Please keep us posted. Shoot it before you buy-If you can. Here's some good '87 info....... http://coyotecap.com/gunsmithingsimplified.htm OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Lithgow made a run of them before the Chinese started making '87's. They weren't imported into the US, but I got to look over one at EoT'02 that was owned by one of the Australian contingent there. If you can lay hand on one of them, that's what I'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The IAC or Norincos were the best but are no longer being made. I had a Zhong Zhou that Lassiter went through and it worked as well as my Lassiter IAC. However is was ugly because the side plates had Zhong Zhou machine works stamped into them in big letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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