Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 to go with the other "dropped firearm" threads.. When does the penalty kick in? When it leaves the shooter's hand/s or when it comes to rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August West, SASS #45079 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: to go with the other "dropped firearm" threads.. When does the penalty kick in? When it leaves the shooter's hand/s or when it comes to rest? Is this a rhetorical question looking for another 5-page "discussion"? ...or are you asking as an RO Instructor seeking the definition? Quote Dropped firearm – a firearm that has left the shooter’s control and comes to rest at a location or position other than where it was intended. SHB p.44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: Is this a rhetorical question looking for another 5-page "discussion"? ...or are you asking as an RO Instructor seeking the definition? SHB p.44 Rhetorical. Because it was stated wrong in the other thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 By others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Interesting. I found this definition. drop /dräp/ verb past tense: dropped; past participle: dropped 1. let or make (something) fall vertically. "the fire was caused by someone dropping a lighted cigarette" synonyms: let fall, let go of, lose one's grip on; More release, unhand, relinquish "Eric dropped the box" put, place, deposit, set, lay, leave; informalpop, plonk "drop the gun on the ground" antonyms: ... 2. fall vertically. "the spoon dropped with a clatter from her hand" synonyms: drip, fall, dribble, trickle, run, plop, leak More "water drops from the cave roof" fall, descend, plunge, plummet, dive, nosedive, tumble, pitch "a plane dropped out of the sky" Seems from this definition that a gun sliding out of a holster, rather than the shooter losing control when the gun was in hand, when the shooter hit the ground wasn't dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The key word is 'control'. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beartrap SASS#57175 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Doesn't make a difference how many other definitions you can find in other places. PW just posted the only definition that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: The key word is 'control'. OLG don't forget the "AND"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mike Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Oops! or Dang! if present would be a dead giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Beartrap SASS#57175 said: Doesn't make a difference how many other definitions you can find in other places. PW just posted the only definition that matters. Yes, I have posted that many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throckmorton,23149 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 when everyone behind the shooter is ducking for cover ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Friend, SASS #53635 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 There is such a narrow window between loss of control and hitting the ground that the microscopic definition hardly matters. We’ve all seen it happen and we all know what’s coming when the process starts. It only seems to take a long time, like a car wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Red Ryder Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hi pals and Happy new year.....the gun is considered as dropped when it hurts your foot!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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