California gun law question

[Trigger Mike]

Let's pretend that I have to move to California from Georgia.  Since currently, Georgia laws on firearms are much better I can own an AR-15 and high capacity magazines etc, can I bring those with me in their current form or do I have to alter them to comply with the laws currently in California?  

[Father Kit Cool Gun Garth]

5 minutes ago, Trigger Mike said:

Let's pretend that I have to move to California from Georgia.  Since currently, Georgia laws on firearms are much better I can own an AR-15 and high capacity magazines etc, can I bring those with me in their current form or do I have to alter them to comply with the laws currently in California?  

 

Mike:

    Since we're pretending, I'm afraid you'll have to hand them over to someone who resides in Florida (I volunteer ) while you are a resident of California.

    When you decide you no longer wish to live in California and leave the state, you may pick them up from me.

    Sort of a gun lay-a-way program I've considered starting.

[Sedalia Dave]

You wil have to make them CA compliant before you enter the state.

[Father Kit Cool Gun Garth]

9 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:

You wil have to make them CA compliant before you enter the state.

 

Dave:

    Not planning on moving to California (EVER ), but for Trigger Mike, what does one have to do to make your firearms compliant?

[July Smith]

I'd sell what you have in GA and then buy what you can in CA. 

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

AR's with magazines have to be altered so the mag can't be released without a tool that locks the mag in place.

Ike

[Dantankerous]

No such thing as a high capacity magazine. 

 

 

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

10 minutes ago, Dantankerous said:

No such thing as a high capacity magazine. 

 

 

But if the "DIMS" can't count past 10, then what do they call it?

[The Bearded Wonder]

13 minutes ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said:

But if the "DIMS" can't count past 10, then what do they call it?

"Standard capacity"

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

Your AR, is not legal here to own.

OLG

 

[Tall Tale Todd]

Another option, not saying I support or encourage this but it is an option, just don't tell anyone you have it. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

Bullet buttons are now evil features that turn certain firearms into assault weapons. 

 

To bring them into CA

Replace the flash hider with either a thread protector or muzzle brake.

Remove the pistol grip or add on one of the attachments so you can't grab it like a pistol. 

Get a fixed stock. 

 

That's this month anyway.   Lord knows when they will start calling  compliance a loophole and change the rules aga9.

[Tall Tale Todd]

 

3 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

Lord knows when they will start calling  compliance a loophole and change the rules aga9.

 

Things will get real bad in January when Newsom moves into the Governor's Mansion. 

[Smoky Pistols]

Wow!!! I just read the CA compliance info for the first time.  What a PITA!!  For others who may not be aware:

https://www.bulletbutton.com/v/vspfiles/downloadables/Open.Letter.Firearm.Compliance.Devices.pdf

[The Bearded Wonder]

10 minutes ago, Smoky Pistols said:

Wow!!! I just read the CA compliance info for the first time.  What a PITA!!  For others who may not be aware:

https://www.bulletbutton.com/v/vspfiles/downloadables/Open.Letter.Firearm.Compliance.Devices.pdf

Holy cow

 

8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

 

Guess this would be illegal?

 

 

 

[Sixgun Sheridan]

Basically you need to treat moving to California like moving to Europe or China. You're leaving the United States of America and can't bring most of your possessions with you.

[Badlands Bob #61228]

Just submit your personal safety to the Government.  They will take care of you.  Have a pumpkin spiced latte and enjoy the weather.  Be sure to watch where you step.

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

4 hours ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

Just submit your personal safety to the Government.  They will take care of you.  Have a pumpkin spiced latte and enjoy the weather.  Be sure to watch where you step.

 

... and one of Fr Kit's kale-radicchio-quinoa tacroissants...  

 

Don't forget your Tums.  You'll need 'em for a variety of reasons.  

[Sedalia Dave]

Don't forget that when the government fails to protect you you cannot sue them.  SCOUTS rulled that law enforcement does not have a constitutional duty to protect citizens from harm. They exist to investigate crimes after they happen.

 

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

 

DeShaney v. Winnebago County

 

 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

5 hours ago, Trigger Mike said:

Let's pretend that I have to move to California from Georgia.  Since currently, Georgia laws on firearms are much better I can own an AR-15 and high capacity magazines etc, can I bring those with me in their current form or do I have to alter them to comply with the laws currently in California?  

Are you still pretending or are you stuck with a serious decision to make about moving there?  I left 4 1/2 years ago because it got totally out of control and was sinking fast.  40 years down the drain didn't set well with me so I moved one state further east.

 

Make sure you have no other options before moving to California.

[Sixgun Sheridan]

No offense to those here in California, but there's more than just Draconian gun laws to worry about. It seems pretty much everything there is regulated and/or needs a special license. California has good weather (most of the time) and beautiful scenery, but the liberals have really ruined it. It's a shame because just 30 years ago CA was actually a fairly moderate and gun-friendly state. It's shocking how fast it changed.

[Trigger Mike]

Just curious about it and also my state caters to Hollywood for filming to go on here and right now a California backed dim is refusing to concede the election until more votes that had the wrong birthday can be counted so she can force a runoff and win the governors race.

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

2 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

Basically you need to treat moving to California like moving to Europe or China. You're leaving the United States of America and can't bring most of your possessions with you.

Could not have said it better lol

[stompk291]

4 hours ago, Tall Tale Todd said:

Another option, not saying I support or encourage this but it is an option, just don't tell anyone you have it. 

 

just FYI, the fire department has been reporting "illegal guns" that they've found in the ashes of burnt out houses after the fires, and the ATF has been charging these people with felonies. there are also many instances of spouses reporting spouses during divorces.

 

there's a lot more to keeping secrets than most people think about.

[Tall Tale Todd]

2 minutes ago, stompk291 said:

 

just FYI, the fire department has been reporting "illegal guns" that they've found in the ashes of burnt out houses after the fires, and the ATF has been charging these people with felonies. there are also many instances of spouses reporting spouses during divorces.

 

there's a lot more to keeping secrets than most people think about.

 

I didn't say it was the best option, just that it was an option

[Badlands Bob #61228]

1 hour ago, stompk291 said:

 

 there are also many instances of spouses reporting spouses during divorces.

 

there's a lot more to keeping secrets than most people think about.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

[Subdeacon Joe]

Examples of CA Compliant ARs.

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This one you would need to pin the stock, or otherwise modify it, so it isn't adjustable.

[Sixgun Sheridan]

3 hours ago, stompk291 said:

 

just FYI, the fire department has been reporting "illegal guns" that they've found in the ashes of burnt out houses after the fires, and the ATF has been charging these people with felonies.

 

Priorities, man. When a family has been burned out of their home, lost all possessions and left homeless it's important to go through the ashes immediately afterwards and see if they were guilty of anything. Fortunately most illegal ARs and hi-cap Glock mags will simply melt in the heat and no longer remain as evidence.

[Smuteye John SASS#24774]

9 hours ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said:

But if the "DIMS" can't count past 10, then what do they call it?

That's 7 in NY.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

And don’t forget virtually everything including the air is known by the state of California to cause cancer

[Chantry]

10 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said:

That's 7 in NY.

Incorrect, that got tossed out in a lawsuit, the judge ruled that a 7 round magazine limit was too arbitrary and it reverted back to a 10 round limit on post ban magazines.

[Pat Riot]

Like Joe said, you can own an AR-15 here if is is made “featureless”. You can also own a full feature AR if you render it so that you must “disassemble” the gun to remove and replace the 10 round magazine.

 

Magazines that hold more than 10 rounds can be “permanently” modified so that they will only hold 10 rounds. The word “permanently” is not spelled out in the law so there are lots of different methods to accomplish this. I used rivets and mag blockers to accomplish this on my Magpul PMAGS. The 30 round mag has a rivet installed to stop the follower at 10 rounds. The 20 round mag has a Magpul 10 round limit block installed that takes the place of the mag spring base. I then riveted the mag spring base to the floor plate. 

OR you can buy 10 round mags and donate your mags to a friend or loved one.

 

Now, some will say “A rivet can be drilled out so that is not permanent.” A nice lady at the Bureau of Firearoat the Dept. Of Justice told me that “rivets are considered permanent” and to be sure the magazine is definitely limited to 10 rounds.

 

My Glock mags are another story that we will not get into now...Ahem...

 

NOW as for keeping a full featured AR and complying with the law as it is written now you can set your gun up to “disassemble” easily to remove and replace your 10 round magazines. Here is probably the best thing that I have seen.

 

 

The “Bullet Button” is no longer legal on any firearm, mostly because the bullet button was a serious slap in the face to the morons, I mean, “legislators” that created the prior laws that said you could only have a detachable magazine if a tool was needed to remove the magazine. Here is how the now illegal, dreaded, bullet button worked.

 

Here is a simple demo of a “bullet button” without all the political BS and male hand modeling:

 

 

Y’all have a nice day 

[Dantankerous]

20 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

Basically you need to treat moving to California like moving to Europe or China. You're leaving the United States of America and can't bring most of your possessions with you.

 

Except in several European countries you can have supressors without all the NFA style hassle.  Hmmm. 

[Sixgun Sheridan]

5 hours ago, Chantry said:

Incorrect, that got tossed out in a lawsuit, the judge ruled that a 7 round magazine limit was too arbitrary and it reverted back to a 10 round limit on post ban magazines.

 

Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that they voted on it and it passed. As soon as they can find a way to get around the judge's ruling they'll likely try passing a five-round limit instead.

[Black Angus McPherson]

6 hours ago, Chantry said:

Incorrect, that got tossed out in a lawsuit, the judge ruled that a 7 round magazine limit was too arbitrary and it reverted back to a 10 round limit on post ban magazines.

 

That makes sense because a 10 round limit isn't arbitrary at all.   

 

Angus