Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 4,441 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 In celebration of load data being allowed on the wire again what is your favorite .38 Special load for our game. I'll start. 2.9 grains of Titegroup with a 110gr. bullet loaded to 1.42 OAL and have used this load for the last 12 years and it has served me very very well. Have been loading Alliant Sport Pistol commercially and have been very happy with it and it reminds me a lot of VVN320. When I get through my last 8 pounder of Titegroup I will probably move to that. Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Rick 518 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 105 gr TCFP over 4.4 gr Trailboss. Not too light but consistent. Link to post Share on other sites
Abilene, SASS # 27489 1,135 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 125gr TC over 4.5gr Unique. Medium power. Link to post Share on other sites
Michigan Slim 5,108 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 grains of Red Dot under my cast 125 grainer or a 110 from Deuce. Link to post Share on other sites
J-BAR #18287 5,804 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Moderators please make this and similar threads permanent “stickies” for future reference. Link to post Share on other sites
Oklahoma Dee 201 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 grains of Clay Dot - 100gr Precision Bullet - OAL is 1.474" Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill Blackerby SASS # 34989 18 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 As much black powder as I can stuff under a 158GR lead head as I can stuff with out cracking the case. Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,283 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.5 grains of Tite-Group under a 125 gr bullet Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 1,412 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 gr. Clays or Clay Dot under a 125gr for rifle, 105gr for pistols and a 158 gr. for Long Range Pistol or knock downs. All crimped in the crimp groove. Thanks Randy Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Hurd #12379 10 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2.9gr Solo 1000 with 105 or 125 gr tc bullet. Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,209 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Bearcreek Moly 158gn 'slick' side bullet. 4.0gn Unique, and whatever SP primer I have on hand. Firm roll crimp. OLG Link to post Share on other sites
Hoot Hamilton 17 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 grains of Red Dot behind Deuce's 110 WITH 1.440 OAL. My standard load for rifle and pistols. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,685 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.4gr VV N320, 125gr TC Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 477 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Same load as Phantom Link to post Share on other sites
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 786 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 158 grain bullet over Triple Seven FFg loaded to the base of the bullet. For rifle a Desperado 158 grain bullet. For revolver a soft 158 grain bullet from any caster will do. Federal primers used if available. Link to post Share on other sites
LostVaquero 487 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 SNS casting 125gr RHFP with 4.2 g trailboss Link to post Share on other sites
John Boy 845 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 The race is on to post as many loads for the 38 Spl than Baskin's & Robbins has ice cream flavors ... Go get em Cowboys BTW - where are all the chronographs results? Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator 707 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 gr. Clays, Fed GM200M, Cimarron coated 105, 125, 135 (slightly flattened nose), & 147. Once seater is set for crimp to just barely roll into crimp groove of 105 at 1.465" OAL then seater is not changed for other bullets. It equates to 125 OAL being slightly shorter at 1.455, 135 1.48", and 147 1.46" . Crimp on 125 is just into crimp grrove as 105, 135 bits into bullet and 147 crimps is just at ogive. I load same bullets for BP (Triple Seven FFg)...also Fed GM200M. Also enjoyed many rounds with TG and VV320 in my early CAS years....and lots of CB Goex in BP with 145 gr SPG bullets...but loads have changed thru the years, taking easier road now.. Thanks for reminder of velocities JB...Above loads running 630-730FPS with occasional single and low two digit SDs. As expected heavier bullets ran best burn and pressure. Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,429 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 .38 2.7 Clays/Clay Dot. 105, 125, 147 bullets. all @ 1.510" .32 H&R Mag 2.3/2.4 Clays/Clay Dot. 100gr @1.390" , 115gr @1.325" Link to post Share on other sites
Noah Migo 0 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2.7 Bullseye, 130 rnfp, 1.48-50 oal, small magnum primer Link to post Share on other sites
Roscoe Regulator 192 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 gr Trailboss and 125 gr coated TCBB, although I wasn't looking for the lightest load possible. The bulk (VMD) of Trailboss allows me to see the charge before placing a bullet for seating. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoss 1,119 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.2 Bullseye 130 grn Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,525 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2.8 Clays with 125gn. TC bullet for Ellie, haven't chronoed. That's where she stopped having a lot of unburned powder. Link to post Share on other sites
Cassalong Hopidy 155 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Pistols: 3.0 gr. of Titegroup behind 105 gr. (with crimp groove) TC bullet, COL 1.445-1.450--red Rifle: 3.0 gr. of Titegroup behind 120-125 gr. (with crimp groove) TC bullet, same COL--lead or black Link to post Share on other sites
Jackson Rose, SASS #45478 81 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.4 gr of titegroup over a 105 tc crimped into the groove. Link to post Share on other sites
Rance - SASS # 54090 322 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Pistol... 3.0 grains of TrailBoss under Duece's 110 grain TC lead.. crimped in the crimp groove.. Rifle... 3.6 grains.. The rest remains the same.. Rance Link to post Share on other sites
Michigan Slim 5,108 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, John Boy said: The race is on to post as many loads for the 38 Spl than Baskin's & Robbins has ice cream flavors ... Go get em Cowboys BTW - where are all the chronographs results? About 750fps out of my Vaquero's last I checked. Since you felt the need to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 970 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: 3.5 grains of Tite-Group under a 125 gr bullet That’s my smokeless load too. Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Cross, SASS #13848 L 63 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 gr Clays, 140 gr Chey-cast TCFP, lead or Hi-Tek coated for everything. Runs through Marlin 94 CBC real smooth. JC Link to post Share on other sites
Straight Arrow Hombre 193 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2.8 grains of titegroup, Deuces 110, 1.42” random federal primers Link to post Share on other sites
Medicine Creek Johnny 100 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3.0 claydot. Federal primer. 110 grained coated Medicine Creek bullet cast from accurate mold company 38-112c moulds. 1.5 oal crimped in crimp grove Link to post Share on other sites
Cholla Bob 93 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 full case of Grafs FFF topped off with a snakebite 158 Link to post Share on other sites
LostVaquero 487 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 The 38 TB load is more toward the higher side but still more than a grain under max. I did not chrono the load but most places indicates it is well under the 1000fps max. The reason I use a bit higher is that is the same amount that goes into the 45acp with 230gr for wild bunch. I use small primer 45acp and that means that I do not have to change powder drop or primer drop between the two, just dies, plate., and bullet feeder. I figure anything makes less changes means less things to have go wrong. That is for my rifle anyway now as I have switched to single six 32s but that is a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites
Dapper Dynamite Dick 47 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 For pistols 3.2 grains of Hercules Infallible, for rifle 3.9 grains of Hercules Infallible, both pushing a 158 grain LRNFP bullet.. This load cycles flawlessly through 10 different .38 Spls. By the way the last time Hercules Infallible was manufactured was in 1948, I picked up 7 pounds of it about 18 months ago and it works like a charm. Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog Brown 160 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2.7gr of Bullseye with a 105 Chey-cast bullet. Both pistol and rifle. Bulldog Brown Link to post Share on other sites
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