Center hit

[Red Cent 446]

How do you teach a cowboy shooter "just get a piece of the meat" rather than stop, acquire sights for center hit and fire?

[Black Mike 65]

Great question. First I made sure my pistols and rifles shoot dead on my point of aim. No kentucky windage. That way as long as my front sight is anywhere in the target I can pull the trigger and hit the target. Certainly helps shoot faster than trying for all bullseyes. 

[G W Wade 943]

It's tough to do.  I have a long Bullseye history, thinking if you learned to shoot accurately you could pick up speed later.   Has taken me years to avoid the center but still flinch once in awhile if I see sights are off.   Shooters who couldn't hit but were fast are learning to hit and still picking up speed.   GW

[The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,181]

'Point' shooting.

 

OLG

[Amarillo Rattler 82]

My revolver front sight picture is very high, so I aim for the bottom third of targets. Sight and target acquisition is faster than “proper” sight alignment on center of target.

 

Results in hits around center of target.

Works for me.

 

Amarillo Rattler

[Red Cent 446]

Rattler, do you put your pinky under the butt of the revolver?

[Throckmorton,23149 41]

I stress that this is not bullseye, it's 'point and click' . I too aim low, with the handguns, because when I miss it's over the top ,as with most shooters.

[The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,181]

7 minutes ago, Throckmorton,23149 said:

I stress that this is not bullseye, it's 'point and click' . I too aim low, with the handguns, because when I miss it's over the top ,as with most shooters.

Where are your hits on a paper bullseye at 30'?

If they go over the top, and it's not the sights. You are 'pushing' the gun.

http://aegisacademy.com/pistol-correction-chart/

 

OLG

[J-BAR #18287 5,708]

Have them empty their firearms (10-10-4) without any targets.  See how fast they can cycle and transition their guns without having to “aim”.  Go from there.

[Smokin Gator SASS #29736 402]

That Rob Leatham video stresses that aiming is useless without proper trigger technique.  

[Red Cent 446]

 

 

There are some handguns that point more naturally than others. The plow handled Colt is not one of them unless you can hit the grip the same place every time. Most of us put our little finger under the butt to ensure an almost repeatable low grip every time. This may not remedy the situation totally. The n the practice solves the problem.

[Amarillo Rattler 82]

12 hours ago, Red Cent said:

Rattler, do you put your pinky under the butt of the revolver?

Full grip duelist and squaw, OMV and NMV.

[Guest Texas jack Black SASS#9362]

16 hours ago, Red Cent said:

How do you teach a cowboy shooter "just get a piece of the meat" rather than stop, acquire sights for center hit and fire?

How do you make a Thirsty horse drink water after you lead  it to the water trough ?    

[Deadshot Dan 117]

With pistol's i have always used what i call point shooting.  When i draw i bring my pistol up into my line of site focusing on the target more than the site's themselve's.  You will see your front site but it won't be your primary focal point.  Don't drop your head to the pistol or you find your hit's to be lower on target and closer to misses low.  With practice you will be closer to getting quicker center hit's.  You can see what i mean by focusing on an object in front of you and quickly bring your index finger up into your line of site, you should be able to point rite at what your focusing on.  At the distances our targets are at and with some practice it will become muscle memory.  Took some practice for me as i'm right handed left eye dominant, still one eyeing the rifle.

[Griff 1,425]

22 hours ago, Red Cent said:

How do you teach a cowboy shooter "just get a piece of the meat" rather than stop, acquire sights for center hit and fire?

Let me know when you find out.  After 33 years of playing this game, I ain't learned that trick.

[John Boy 839]

So ... holding the revolver tight on the target and slip firing would substantially decrease one's times more ... with practice

[Sneaky 19]

I found that presenting from leather and having the sights lined up is imperative. So draw with eyes closed. If you open your eyes and the sights are lined up then it is just a matter of keeping the gun from rocking while slip hammering or twisting from side to side movement while sweeping the targets. If the sights are lined up then focus can shift to the front sight and you can let em rip with confidence you will hit the target. 

[Red Cent 446]

 

 

Looks as though the subject is drifting. 

You have five 16" squares 21' in front of you. Draw and shoot a sweep. either way. Some shooters do not learn to pull the trigger as the sights get on the target and keep moving. They have taught the subconscious to stop for a center hit. 

 

[Deadshot Dan 117]

Ah, miss understood ya Red, still havin trouble with that one myself .  It is hard not to stop on target sometimes for fear of a miss.  Maybe just got to retrain the brain not to worry about misses.

[Doc Shapiro 1,067]

3 hours ago, Deadshot Dan said:

Ah, miss understood ya Red, still havin trouble with that one myself .  It is hard not to stop on target sometimes for fear of a miss.  Maybe just got to retrain the brain not to worry about misses.

 

Yup.  If you want to get faster, you have to shoot faster.  Misses will happen until your eyes catch up.  Takes time and practice.  Most people see way more sight picture than needed.

[Rattler 44]

On 8/18/2018 at 3:02 PM, Red Cent said:

Rattler, do you put your pinky under the butt of the revolver?

 

Yes I do. It just works better for me!