Subdeacon Joe Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Quote USS America (LHA 6) conduct a live fire exercise with a Mk 38 MOD 2 25mm machine gun to test the ship’s defense capabilities against a simulated unmanned small fast-boat attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Sure a far cry from the M60’s we used. Never fired on a speed boat but did put a few rounds in front of them which changed their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It could get real uncomfortable on that little boat. Couldn't something like the "Gatling guns" used on helicopter in the middle east be adapted with a deck mount to do the same thing with better saturation of the target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Cmon Chief, I drove the boat last time! Surely its someone else's turn Isnt 25mm a cannon and not a MG? I'm wondering if it is the same gun as the LAV- a Bushmaster 25mm Chain Gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I wasn't too impressed with the accuracy of fire. That was a very expensive looking sighting system to miss the first 20-30 shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: I wasn't too impressed with the accuracy of fire. That was a very expensive looking sighting system to miss the first 20-30 shots. I thought the same thing but looked again and it appears to be a test of the platform and not a normal process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: It could get real uncomfortable on that little boat. Couldn't something like the "Gatling guns" used on helicopter in the middle east be adapted with a deck mount to do the same thing with better saturation of the target? Phalanx system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 My cousin was a fire control chief and got to play with all sorts of goodies. He always said the CIWS (pronounced see-wiz) was the most impressive. Aerial targets or fast boats, nothing stood a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Phalanx system Looks like a lot of rounds expended..... and the little red boat keeps on coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Howdy, seemed small......25 millimeters NOT 25 caliber.....Got it. Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 In SDJs video in addition to the 25mm firing they are also firing a 50 cal at the target (red RC boat) The small splashes are 50 cal and the big ones are the 25mm. Looks like a new proof of concept test. Hard to know what tracking / targeting method they were using. CIWS (Christ It Won't Shoot) which was replaced by CIWS-A (Christ It Won't Shoot, Again) was designed to track and shoot down aerial targets not small surface targets. Engaging a small surface target in choppy seas a lot harder that it looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Looks like a lot of rounds expended..... and the little red boat keeps on coming. +1. A multi-million dollar weapons platform designed for another mission that costs many thousands of $$$$ to operate per encounter. All to take out a Zodiac? But then, we have AC-130s to take out pick-up trucks, and F-15F/F-16/F-18s to take out mud huts. And lets not forget B-1s flying close air support and "show of force" sorties. Does anyone in the Pentagon remember A-6/F-4/A-4s taking out wooden bridges over creeks and ravines? Is anyone looking at the big picture? Is swatting flies with billions of dollars the best way to go about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Monger Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Looked to me like the camera was on a different angle than the 25mm gun. Those first few rounds were not missing. They were passing through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Did they ever sink that Zodiac? Didn't look like it to me. How about a 5-inch 38 round or two in the general vicinity just in front of the boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Trail Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 6:05 AM, Badlands Bob #61228 said: I wasn't too impressed with the accuracy of fire. That was a very expensive looking sighting system to miss the first 20-30 shots. It seems that accuracy if of little importance anymore. If you look into the history of kill ratio, rounds fired vs. number of kills, since WWII, it is astounding. WWII - 1:7, except Okinawa - 1:71 Current conflict(s) in Middle East - 1:250,000 - 350,000 And now, the U.S. cannot manufacture all of our own ammunition for our military. Lake City is only running at around 20% capacity and is classified as a toxic site under Super Fund and will be shut down. We import most of our ammunition from foreign nations. 12 of 13 components used to manufacture gun powder are imported. U.S. manufacturers cannot get funding from U.S. banks. U.S. manufacturers are not allowed to approach the U.S. government for contracts. I know I veered off topic, but it's all related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 17 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: But then, we have AC-130s to take out pick-up trucks, and F-15F/F-16/F-18s to take out mud huts. And lets not forget B-1s flying close air support and "show of force" sorties. Popular legend has it that at one time President George W. Bush was briefed on a possible missile strike on an Al-Qaeda camp, and he turned it down saying "I'm not going to waste a $10 million missile on a $10 tent and hit a camel in the butt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Don't make the assumption that the little red boat is supposed to blow up or sink. Suspect the hull is foam filled and the power plant is armored. Remotely controlled targets are expensive and in all likely hood it is designed to be recovered so that the number of hits can be recorded. Besides it would make for very short gunnery practice if it was disabled the first time it was shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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