How about this sequence

[Double Barrel, SASS 34765]

Rather than hijack Cheyenne Culpepper's post, I thought I would ask on a different one.

 

How about;

 

4 targets    1, 2 ,2, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4, 2, 3

 

DB

[Phantom, SASS #54973]

Why????

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

'P' trap.

OLG

[Creeker, SASS #43022]

Sequences should have logical flow.  

Symmetry is your friend.

 

1,2-2,3-3,4

1,2,3,4

 

Makes a little more sense.

[McCandless]

As Creeker mentioned in another post, a stage should flow like a dance.  This sequence seems to want to break up any flow.  But, can be tweaked to make it work.  That said, you write it, I'll shoot it... but good stage writing should make shooters look forward to returning to your shoots.

[Flash]

49 minutes ago, Double Barrel, SASS 34765 said:

Rather than hijack Cheyenne Culpepper's post, I thought I would ask on a different one.

 

How about;

 

4 targets    1, 2 ,2, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4, 2, 3

 

DB

I love it but I still like mine better!  1,4,2,3,1,4,2,3,1,4

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

once you think it through,  not bad  trad shooter 1 2 2, then sweep 41234... gf,,, from the left L RL RL R on 4 then sweep 1234

[Shotgun Willie Nelson]

7 minutes ago, Flash said:

I love it but I still like mine better!  1,4,2,3,1,4,2,3,1,4

That one does sound like a dance step...

[Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator]

IMO, if the sequence does not have "a flow", as Creeker suggests, then the stage becomes a TOs nightmare to help the majority that have "mental stalls" shooting it.

[Creeker, SASS #43022]

The best sequences are ones that either "flow" from one target to the next.

Nevada sweep

Double tap sweeps

 

Are balanced with a symmetry across the target array.

3-2-2-3

1-2-4-2-1

3-1-2-1-3

 

Or have some sort of an intuitive progression or repetition.

1,2-2,3-3-3,4-4-4-4

Inside-inside-outside-outside-middle

 

Herky jerky sequences which attempt to dispose of X number of rounds across Y number of plates without regard to the above can quickly turn into P traps and memory contests.

 

Some of the odder sequences can be used, but you must assist your shooters with target shape, color or placement.  And you have to plan for these assists as you write the stage or pull steel.

 

The match directors desire to set something "different" can lead to sequences and stages which stop being fun and become obstacles.

Edited May 9, 2018 by Creeker, SASS #43022

[Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator]

56 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

The best sequences are ones that either "flow" from one target to the next.

Nevada sweep

Double tap sweeps

 

Are balanced with a symmetry across the target array.

3-2-2-3

1-2-4-2-1

3-1-2-1-3

 

Or have some sort of an intuitive progression or repetition.

1,2-2,3-3-3,4-4-4-4

Inside-inside-outside-outside-middle

 

Herky jerky sequences which attempt to dispose of X number of rounds across Y number of plates without regard to the above can quickly turn into P traps and memory contests.

 

Some of the odder sequences can be used, but you must assist your shooters with target shape, color or placement.  And you have to plan for these assists as you write the stage or pull steel.

 

The match directors desire to set something "different" can lead to sequences and stages which stop being fun and become obstacles.

+1

And, IMO, size and target positioning can make the flow more meaningful and doable.  A sequence may read in shooter's program, or even appear in diagram there, as difficult but when shooter is actually at stage "the flow" becomes evident. 

Recently shot a five target sequence of  333, 1, 5, 2, 4, 333 (center-center-center-outside-outside-inside-inside-center-center-center).  When I read sequence in book and looked at diagram I felt second pistol would "be drawn" to target #3 (center), but in front of targets, as set, it did not seem the "P" trap I thought it might be.  second pistol "flowed" right to an inside target (in my case #2).

Edited May 9, 2018 by Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator

[Houston CAS]

Everytime I see these sequence threads I think about that scene from Friends with Monica and the seven zones. 

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

I'd like this better - 

1  2,2  3,3,3  4  3  2  1

 

Good luck, GJ

[J-BAR #18287]

A gunfighter with a left lead will like it; everyone else will want to lynch you, and I wouldn’t blame them at all.

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

it's just a  1 2 2 then sweep starting on 4 and going back to #1 2 3 4....

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said:

it's just a  1 2 2 then sweep starting on 4 and going back to #1 2 3 4....

Yep, almost.   Don't forget the first round of the second five shots would go on 3.  

Edited May 10, 2018 by Garrison Joe, SASS #60708

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

5 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said:

Yep, almost.   Don't forget the first round of the second five shots would go on 3.  

it's a 1 on 1, 2 on 2,  2 on 3,,,, first five done,, second five,,,, 4 1 2 3 4 

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said:

it's a 1 on 1, 2 on 2,  2 on 3,,,, first five done,, second five,,,, 4 1 2 3 4 

Oh, you  are talking that OTHER pattern....

Good luck, GJ