Double Barrel, SASS 34765 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Rather than hijack Cheyenne Culpepper's post, I thought I would ask on a different one. How about; 4 targets 1, 2 ,2, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4, 2, 3 DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Why???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 'P' trap. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Sequences should have logical flow. Symmetry is your friend. 1,2-2,3-3,4 1,2,3,4 Makes a little more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 As Creeker mentioned in another post, a stage should flow like a dance. This sequence seems to want to break up any flow. But, can be tweaked to make it work. That said, you write it, I'll shoot it... but good stage writing should make shooters look forward to returning to your shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, Double Barrel, SASS 34765 said: Rather than hijack Cheyenne Culpepper's post, I thought I would ask on a different one. How about; 4 targets 1, 2 ,2, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4, 2, 3 DB I love it but I still like mine better! 1,4,2,3,1,4,2,3,1,4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 once you think it through, not bad trad shooter 1 2 2, then sweep 41234... gf,,, from the left L RL RL R on 4 then sweep 1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Willie Nelson Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Flash said: I love it but I still like mine better! 1,4,2,3,1,4,2,3,1,4 That one does sound like a dance step... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 IMO, if the sequence does not have "a flow", as Creeker suggests, then the stage becomes a TOs nightmare to help the majority that have "mental stalls" shooting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 The best sequences are ones that either "flow" from one target to the next. Nevada sweep Double tap sweeps Are balanced with a symmetry across the target array. 3-2-2-3 1-2-4-2-1 3-1-2-1-3 Or have some sort of an intuitive progression or repetition. 1,2-2,3-3-3,4-4-4-4 Inside-inside-outside-outside-middle Herky jerky sequences which attempt to dispose of X number of rounds across Y number of plates without regard to the above can quickly turn into P traps and memory contests. Some of the odder sequences can be used, but you must assist your shooters with target shape, color or placement. And you have to plan for these assists as you write the stage or pull steel. The match directors desire to set something "different" can lead to sequences and stages which stop being fun and become obstacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: The best sequences are ones that either "flow" from one target to the next. Nevada sweep Double tap sweeps Are balanced with a symmetry across the target array. 3-2-2-3 1-2-4-2-1 3-1-2-1-3 Or have some sort of an intuitive progression or repetition. 1,2-2,3-3-3,4-4-4-4 Inside-inside-outside-outside-middle Herky jerky sequences which attempt to dispose of X number of rounds across Y number of plates without regard to the above can quickly turn into P traps and memory contests. Some of the odder sequences can be used, but you must assist your shooters with target shape, color or placement. And you have to plan for these assists as you write the stage or pull steel. The match directors desire to set something "different" can lead to sequences and stages which stop being fun and become obstacles. +1 And, IMO, size and target positioning can make the flow more meaningful and doable. A sequence may read in shooter's program, or even appear in diagram there, as difficult but when shooter is actually at stage "the flow" becomes evident. Recently shot a five target sequence of 333, 1, 5, 2, 4, 333 (center-center-center-outside-outside-inside-inside-center-center-center). When I read sequence in book and looked at diagram I felt second pistol would "be drawn" to target #3 (center), but in front of targets, as set, it did not seem the "P" trap I thought it might be. second pistol "flowed" right to an inside target (in my case #2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston CAS Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Everytime I see these sequence threads I think about that scene from Friends with Monica and the seven zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I'd like this better - 1 2,2 3,3,3 4 3 2 1 Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 A gunfighter with a left lead will like it; everyone else will want to lynch you, and I wouldn’t blame them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 it's just a 1 2 2 then sweep starting on 4 and going back to #1 2 3 4.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: it's just a 1 2 2 then sweep starting on 4 and going back to #1 2 3 4.... Yep, almost. Don't forget the first round of the second five shots would go on 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Yep, almost. Don't forget the first round of the second five shots would go on 3. it's a 1 on 1, 2 on 2, 2 on 3,,,, first five done,, second five,,,, 4 1 2 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: it's a 1 on 1, 2 on 2, 2 on 3,,,, first five done,, second five,,,, 4 1 2 3 4 Oh, you are talking that OTHER pattern.... Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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