Trigger Mike Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I saw an email where Cimarron is going to make a SAA in 380 and on the classifieds a Ruger had a cylinder for 40 S & W. I know about how a revolver like the Governor handles 45 ACP really well. How does a 380 and 40 do in a revolver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I've shot 9mm and .40 in my Ruger convertible .357's & .38-40's, plus .45 acp in Uberti .45 Colt convertibles, and never had any problems with function or accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Howdy, Full moon clips help out on some designs. Single action cylinder has to be made for the round. See the Ruger lcr in 9mm No brass getting sprayed all over. Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Never seen a .380 or .40 revolver, but I shoot .45ACP exclusively in my dual-cylinder Cimarron Model P and it runs perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Well, first Cimmaron doesn’t really “make” anything, they import. Never seen a .380 wheelgun either. Should function as well as the 45 acp and 9mm though, which is to say just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'm sure .380 would probably function just fine, but the question would be . . . why would you want to shoot .380 in a wheel gun? I understand shooting .45ACP and even 9mm, only because the ammo is relatively inexpensive (as compared to some cowboy loads) and many shooters (like myself) have a large stockpile of it to shoot in their modern handguns. But .380 is rather expensive, and not nearly as available as .38. Even if you reload, .380 brass is considerably more expensive than .38. So if you want a revolver in a .38 caliber, stick with .38 or .357. Just my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 To answer the question they head space on the case mouth not the rim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 why? Well small cases lead to better loading density and more efficient powder burn which all theoretically equate to lower recoil and improved accuracy, but the real reason is simpler people buy them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 When I was still shooting Suppositories, I fit a pair of USFA with 45 ACP Cylinders and I fit a pair of Uberti 3 1/2 inch thunderer(s) with 45 ACP cylinders. 45 ACP and cowboy loaded 45 ACP ran just fine but I was really enamored of the ACP cylinders with C45S cases. Excellent results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 My Ruger .38-40s came with a set of .40 S&W cylinders. I'm not a fan of the Ruger .38-40 cylinders, but the .40 S&W cylinders work very well and there is plenty of cheep brass available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said: My Ruger .38-40 came with a set of .40 S&W cylinders. A set? As in two or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said: My Ruger .38-40 came with a set of .40 S&W cylinders. I'm not a fan of the Ruger .38-40 cylinders, but the .40 S&W cylinders work very well and there is plenty of cheep brass available. the ruger dual set that was for sale on the classifieds got me thinking more about this subject, paired with the email that they will make a SAA in 380. Let's say you carry a Glock 40 for example, but your wife prefers a revolver, get her the Ruger vaquero that shoots 40 and no need for different ammo. or you carry a Colt Mustang 380 but she does not like a small frame semi auto, get her the Cimarron SAA that shoots 380, easier to buy ammo for the household. better yet, you get a Glock 9mm, she does not like the Glock,, get her the Ruger double action revolver in 9mm and you get the Ruger PC9 carbine with the Glock magazine attachment and just one ammo takes care of everyone and the rifle and your pistol use the same ammo and magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 J-Bar, .38-40s (I forgot to add an "s", sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 T Mike, You may well find the Cimarron 380 to be ...... inadequate. It's not going to be an SAA. It's going to be a little 1849 Conversion. Cute but not real practicable for anything beyond across a card table. Factory 380 Auto is not going to treat the Cimarron with kindness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: T Mike, You may well find the Cimarron 380 to be ...... inadequate. It's not going to be an SAA. It's going to be a little 1849 Conversion. Cute but not real practicable for anything beyond across a card table. Factory 380 Auto is not going to treat the Cimarron with kindness. 1849 should be .31 cal shooting a ~.320" ball. A .380 uses a .355" bullet... A .380 cylinder on a Model P Jr frame would make more sense from a production standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 It is my understanding, the cylinder, Recoil Shield and Barrel assembly are unique to this pistol. It is being built as a cartridge gun and will not be convertible back to percussion. I may be a fuddy duddy but the gun doesn't make good sense for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Nope. Not. Went digging. The 380 is being built on an 1862 Police action. Bigger than an 1849. The gun will look like a conversion, but is being built from the ground up as a cartridge gun. Looks real trick but still not real practical. Since the loading/unloading port doesn't close, pointing it up when you cock it will be pretty comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Either way, doesn't make any sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 If you're buying your ammo, it don't make any sense. Expensive. But then, if you're buying your ammo, the 32 conversion cylinder for the 1849 Colt revolver makes no sense. Also expensive. Actually more expensive than the 380. However, when you reload, both 32 S&W Long and 380 are fairly cheap. I think it would be a kinda cool little pocket pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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