Subdeacon Joe Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Most excellent. Every round has its exceptions to the rule and there will be examples of the best case and worst case scenarios in all handgun data research. This chart, although meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek, does provide excellent guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Never had to use a gun in the gravest extreme, but if that time arose I think I'd fall somewhere on your pie chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 It's like real estate!! It ALL depends on three things! Location, location, and finally, LOCATION!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grenadier Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 A police officer I know once saw a 350# man killed by a .25 acp bullet after it had pierced a 2" thick oak door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I have heard some interesting "gun counter" conversations but Blackwater's comment reminded me of a guy that worked at B&B sales in CA. Whenever the subject of "one shot stops" came up and someone would aske "What's best of ammo 'A' or ammo 'B'?" he would say "I don't know. You can try shooting a bad guy once and do your own study". That usually stopped the direction of the conversation into Mall Ninja territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 A one stop shot from a handgun would be MUCH more probable if said handgun was this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dantankerous said: A one stop shot from a handgun would be MUCH more probable if said handgun was this one: Doesn't matter, shoot them more than once. Is that a BFR in 45-70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 44 Magnum shot once . Outcome = DEAD ! Just sayin Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Is that a BFR in 45-70? I believe it is. I stole the pic from the web... not my BFR. Not that I don't want one though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I sent this chart to my cop nephew. His response- "This is true; keep shooting!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Oh, I know how this one is going to go, will throw the correct post #1 chart off the chart, so here it is. My very first homicide I worked was a 200# fellow that was shot from around 30 yards with a 22 one shot. D.R.T. (Dead Rite There) Hollow point kinda ripped up the heart a bit and a few other internal pieces as it bounced around inside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 My opinion is, what every you have in your hand at the time of need, will have to do the job. ---- In high school I witnessed a 64 Buick hit almost head on with a VW beetle. One of those 50 and 60 types. The impact was just off center and the Buick lost. The Buick had run up and over the drive side front tire of the Beetle causing teh Buick to roll over on it's top and slide down the road. Buick drive needed medical help. VW people (2) got out and walked to the sidewalk and sat down and waited for the police to show up. So the point is the same, point of impact is more important than the size of the projectile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus McPherson Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Then there was the NYC cop that killed a Polar Bear with one shot from his .38 Special. It happened a number of years back when a kid fell in with the Polar bear at the NYC zoo. Poor bear. I don't recall if he used a hollow point or LRN. I don't want to get shot any where with any gun. Some of my favorite sayings: Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting several times. and Ammunition is cheap. Life is priceless. Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Then there was the story of the Alaskan Indian woman who was chased up a food platform by a Kodiak (premium-sized griz). All she had was a Colt's Woodsman .22rf. It was getting dark and the bear was shaking the platform something fierce. Afraid he would knock the platform down, she pointed the Woodsman down into the darkness and fired! There was a commotion followed by dead silence. When morning came, she looked down to see the brown dead as a doornail! The bullet had hit the bear in the eye and penetrated to the brain. See? That makes a .22rf a bear stopper, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Cliff Hanger #3720LR said: My opinion is, what every you have in your hand at the time of need, will have to do the job. ---- In high school I witnessed a 64 Buick hit almost head on with a VW beetle. One of those 50 and 60 types. The impact was just off center and the Buick lost. The Buick had run up and over the drive side front tire of the Beetle causing teh Buick to roll over on it's top and slide down the road. Buick drive needed medical help. VW people (2) got out and walked to the sidewalk and sat down and waited for the police to show up. So the point is the same, point of impact is more important than the size of the projectile. I feel bad 'cause I'm laughing so hard at this one. Yep, shot placement is everything in bullets and cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Clay Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Shot placement is King, adequate penetration is Queen and all else are angels dancing on the head of a pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: 44 Magnum shot once . Outcome = DEAD ! Just sayin Rooster Don't buy into that mythology. More have probably survived being shot with the .44 Remington magnum than have died from it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Smoken D said: Oh, I know how this one is going to go, will throw the correct post #1 chart off the chart, so here it is. My very first homicide I worked was a 200# fellow that was shot from around 30 yards with a 22 one shot. D.R.T. (Dead Rite There) Hollow point kinda ripped up the heart a bit and a few other internal pieces as it bounced around inside him. You can find quite a few instances of one-shot-stops with a .22. You can find quite a few instances of multiple hits with a .45ACP, .44Mag, etc. with the victim surviving. As has been said several times in several ways on this thread, shot placement shot placement shot placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 41 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Don't buy into that mythology. More have probably survived being shot with the .44 Remington magnum than have died from it!! Oh, I dunno... I saw a moose shot one time with a .44 Mangle-em that died instantly. But that was to finish the job that a .300 Weatherby DIDN'T do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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