Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Here is what we used in the past for our annual have we missed any or have any names changed? Categories Buckaroo 13 yrs old & younger Buckarette 13 yrs old & younger Young Gun 14-16 yrs old Young Gun Girl 14-16 yrs old Cowboy any age Cowgirl any age Wrangler 36 yrs or greater Lady Wrangler 36 yrs or greater Forty-Niner 49 yrs or greater Lady Forty-Niners 49 yrs or greater Senior 60 yrs or greater Lady Senior 60 yrs or greater Silver Senior 65 yrs or greater Lady Silver Senior 65 yrs or greater Elder Statesman 70 yrs or greater Grand Dame 70 yrs or greater Cattle Barron 75 yrs or greater Cattle Baroness 75 yrs or greater El Patron 80 yrs or greater La Patrona 80 yrs or greater Duelist per SASS Rules Lady Duelist per SASS Rules Senior Duelist per SASS Rules Lady Senior Duelist per SASS Rules Gunfighter per SASS Rules Lady Gunfighter per SASS Rules Classic Cowboy per SASS Rules Classic Cowgirl per SASS Rules B-Western per SASS Rules Lady B-Western per SASS Rules *Frontier Cartridge per SASS Rules *Lady Frontier Cartridge per SASS Rules *FC Duelist per SASS Rules *Lady FC Duelist per SASS Rules *FC Gunfighter per SASS Rules *Lady FC Gunfighter per SASS Rules *Senior FC per SASS Rules *Lady Senior FC per SASS Rules *Frontiersman per SASS Rules *Lady Frontiersman per SASS Rules Cody-Dixon Lever per Club Rules Lady Cody-Dixon Lever per Club Rules Cody-Dixon Single per Club Rules Lady Cody-Dixon Single per Club Rules Josey Wales 2 revolvers in place of rifle Lady Josey Wales 2 revolvers in place of rifle Outlaw pistol/sg-hip, rifle-shoulder Lady Outlaw pistol/sg-hip, rifle-shoulder WB Traditional per Wild Bunch Rules Lady WB Traditional per Wild Bunch Rules Wild bunch Modern per Wild Bunch Rules Lady Wild Bunch Modern per Wild Bunch Rules Steam Punk clothing category Lady Steam Punk clothing category * Black Powder Categories
Blackey Cole Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I don't think of a category besides the hillbilly ones that you don't have listed
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 The 80 & above are now called La Patron, & La Partoness, according to our TG. TB
Mink Shoals Bandit, #49388 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 WB Senior per Wild Bunch Rules + Ladies
StirrupTrouble Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 We also offer Senior Gunfighter, though it is not an official SASS category
Larry Earp SASS#60034 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Outlaw category allows the rifle to be shot from either the hip or the shoulder, however some clubs do not allow rifles to be shot from the hip.
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 35 minutes ago, Black Hills Barb said: Wouldn't that be El Patron? Yes it would. There's no such thing as a "la patron"
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 52 minutes ago, Redwood Kid said: Yes it would. There's no such thing as a "la patron" Let's not be judgmental now that we are in the age of what many schools are calling gender fluidity.
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 37 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Let's not be judgmental now that we are in the age of what many schools are calling gender fluidity. Haha well I guess you've got a point there.
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 If ya ain't figured out what you are by the time you're 80, it probably ain't gonna happen.
Gunbutcher Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: If ya ain't figured out what you are by the time you're 80, it probably ain't gonna happen. At 80, it's the forgetting what you are that is the problem.
C. W. Knight # 47289L Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 NOT for our very own Gran Partron "Papa Dave"
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 My 2017 Winter Range trophy says "Grand Patron" Blackfoot
Yusta B. Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Gunbutcher said: At 80, it's the forgetting what you are that is the problem. Oh thanks - now I have another interesting stage to look forward to !!
Attica Jack #23953 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 How many categories is that.....I ran out of fingers?
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted July 24, 2017 Author Posted July 24, 2017 51 minutes ago, Attica Jack #23953 said: How many categories is that.....I ran out of fingers? Too many or not enough depending on the shooter Since we're offering the "OFFICIAL" SASS and WB ones + a few local 'near and dear' thought the least we could do it get the name correct. Someday we'll be collapsing all them into Cowboy and Cowgirl as attendance drops off (I know these are actual categories but was attempting to be humorous--I'm taking time to spell this out for those that have had a humor-ectomey)
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 19 hours ago, Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 said: The 80 & above are now called La Patron, & La Partoness, according to our TG. TB Hello, I am a TG and read the TG wire daily (when I'm home). I have not heard of any official (in the SHB) category changes. The SH only lists age-based categories to "Elder Statesmen/Grand Dames are competitors 70 years of age or greater." Any other categories for older shooters are at the MD's discretion. Regards, Allie Mo
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 I'll double check with our TG, he reported this change a couple of months ago. TB
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 said: Hello, I am a TG and read the TG wire daily (when I'm home). I have not heard of any official (in the SHB) category changes. The SH only lists age-based categories to "Elder Statesmen/Grand Dames are competitors 70 years of age or greater." Any other categories for older shooters are at the MD's discretion. Regards, Allie Mo That is true. The "unofficial" categories are getting out of hand. You are correct that Patron and La Patrona are at the MDs discretion. (As well as Senior Gunfighter, Silver Senior Duelist and a host of other "unofficial" categories.) Misty annouced at the Winter Range TG meeting that if offered, the name should be La Patrona. Since these are unofficial and not listed in the SHB the names seem to fluctuate a bit. I just noticed we have "Patronette" listed on the 2018 WR application.
Charlie Whiskers Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Question: Is Senior Duelist a Male and Female combined category? There's Lady Gunfighter, Lady Wrangler, Lady Duelist, Etc. Reason I ask is a shoot I was at not long ago the MD said it's not a gender separate category.
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, Charlie Whiskers said: Question: Is Senior Duelist a Male and Female combined category? There's Lady Gunfighter, Lady Wrangler, Lady Duelist, Etc. Reason I ask is a shoot I was at not long ago the MD said it's not a gender separate category. LOL! Just tell MD there are "no men's categories." From the SHB: "All SASS categories may be subdivided by gender (e.g. Lady Duelist, Lady Gunfighter, Lady 49‘er, Lady Wrangler, etc.). Competitors may compete within any category for which they qualify. There are no men‘s categories."
Attica Jack #23953 Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 Just a quick question. Why are there two categories for every category? For instance, why is there a male category for gunfighter and female category for gunfighter, and the list goes on and on.
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Attica Jack #23953 said: Just a quick question. Why are there two categories for every category? For instance, why is there a male category for gunfighter and female category for gunfighter, and the list goes on and on. Quote SASS recognizes shooting categories based upon age, gender, costuming, equipment, shooting style, and/or propellant. The age for a competitor is determined by their age on the first day the match starts. All SASS categories may be subdivided by gender (e.g. Lady Duelist, Lady Gunfighter, Lady 49‘er, Lady Wrangler, etc.). Competitors may compete within any category for which they qualify. There are no men‘s categories. SHB p.13
Attica Jack #23953 Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 I understand that SASS recognizes male and female categories, but why? In Wild Bunch females shoot with the men, with no problems. The amount of categories that SASS has now is getting to be an overkill. Men and women are physically different, but it is not like we are throwing the shot putt, or tossing beer kegs over a wall. All we do, both men and women is draw a pistol, shotgun and a rifle and shoot some targets. I realize that SASS has the mind set that everyone gets a trophy, but it is getting out of hand. When you attend a state shoot and attend the banquet, you sit for 2 1/2 hours while all the category winners are announced. In my opinion, I think it is time to combine/trim some of the categories.
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Attica Jack #23953 said: I understand that SASS recognizes male and female categories, but why? In Wild Bunch females shoot with the men, with no problems. The amount of categories that SASS has now is getting to be an overkill. Men and women are physically different, but it is not like we are throwing the shot putt, or tossing beer kegs over a wall. All we do, both men and women is draw a pistol, shotgun and a rifle and shoot some targets. I realize that SASS has the mind set that everyone gets a trophy, but it is getting out of hand. When you attend a state shoot and attend the banquet, you sit for 2 1/2 hours while all the category winners are announced. In my opinion, I think it is time to combine/trim some of the categories. Did you miss the part in the quoted (2x, BTW) section from the SASS SHOOTERS HANDBOOK that states "There are no men's categories"?? ...and FYI: Quote RECOGNIZED AND ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES Four Categories are always offered: Traditional and Modern (for men and boys only), and Lady Modern and Lady Traditional. If there are enough shooters and demand warrants it, age based categories such as seniors may be offered. WBAS Handbook p.16
Attica Jack #23953 Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 PaleWolf. I did refresh myself with the handbook. You are correct as there are no men's categories. My question is, why can't a category just be duelist, and the men and women shoot in that category, why is there a Lady duelist category? Gun fighter, all male and female shooters shoot in that category, etc.
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 32 minutes ago, Attica Jack #23953 said: PaleWolf. I did refresh myself with the handbook. You are correct as there are no men's categories. My question is, why can't a category just be duelist, and the men and women shoot in that category, why is there a Lady duelist category? Gun fighter, all male and female shooters shoot in that category, etc. The category regs say "may be subdivided"...not "must be". A Match Director could offer just the basic categories without doing so, but that would most likely be detrimental to attendance numbers. IMO
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted July 25, 2017 Author Posted July 25, 2017 Great input from everyone! since there are at least 10,852 categories I wanted to be as sure as possible that I had some knowledgeable folks have a look-see before we moved on. cheyenne
LAST CHANCE Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 How embarrassing, we double the amount of categories in uspsa, idpa and 3gun combined, with some left over.
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