Dutch Wheeler Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I just received mine about 2 weeks ago, so I counted the number of coils on my "spare" spring and came up with 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 Give RPP a call. I'm run'n 23 coils on all 3 of our M/94's now. WARNING-Does make the extractor assembly a bit more difficult to install, while keeping the spring in position. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 What did the longer spring actually do for us. I haven't had a chance to install my second one in my .45 yet due to snow, but will report back as soon as I can. Both extractors I was sent have the shorter spring. and the first one ejects close to my foot at about 2 o'clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 The 3 I have installed in our M/94's, all showed better and more consistent ejection. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: The 3 I have installed in our M/94's, all showed better and more consistent ejection. OLG Howdy Eyesa. I got the same results as Lumpy. The spring I had worked great. In my opinion, nothing was wrong with the original springs or the Extractor. It all had to do with the amount of pressure the Extractor was exerting on the 'empty' case because some of the Bolts on the Marlin had variations of the Extractor retaining PIN HOLE. And these variations allowed different depths of the RPP Extractor, albeit only in the .000's BUT, based on my assessment (and concurred by LUMPY), we felt that a slightly longer spring would allow just enough extra tension of the Extractor tip to keep just a tad more pressure on the case rim for better, more consistent Ejections. Both Lumpy and I agreed that approx 3 coils would be sufficient and not be overbearing. RPP listened and apparently started immediately putting the newer spring lengths in their Extractor body. This extra length also allows for the rifle owner to cut a coil or so if they deem necessary..........although I personally would not recommend it. I can't speak for LUMPY, but the situation of the spring tension occurred while I was working on a Pards Marlin which already had the RPP Extractor in it. While testing it for Ejections, some brass would eject 100% of the time while another piece of brass with a different rim thickness, would only eject less than 1/2 the time. I think I listed a more detail comment in an earlier post. Hey Eyesa, I got your email and look forward to you giving me a shout, hopefully next week. Keep in touch. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 8:49 AM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: PLZ post up your findings. OLG Will do OLG. Shipped the same day, and should arrive by next Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 UPDATE: The new Ranger Point Extractor arrived in the mail yesterday exactly like described. This morning I made the change after watching the video. Piece of cake! I knew as soon as I reassembled the rifle and cycled it there was an improvement. I then loaded in the dummy 38 special rounds I had made this week during the wait, and I could not believe it. After five years of playing with cartridge OAL trying to get rid of that little last second "bolt hesitation" as the bolt finishes closing was gone. Every round cycled through so smooth and extracted without a glitch dropping the rounds less than 2 feet to the side. Folks in my opinion this is the best thing since bottled beer, and well worth the money in my opinion. Great job Ranger Point !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Please let us hear how your live-fire session goes. One thing I just learned about the RPP extractor. That now, both of my .44's will feed LSWC(lead-semi wad cutter)bullets with ease. Before-the 'cowboy limited' was 'no way in heck' and the 1981 carbine was 98-99% reliable with and occasional 'double-clutch' of the lever. NOW-Both feed LSWC bullets like, they are round nose........ OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Update-Just tested(live fire)my Wife's .38CBC with LSWC bullets and it will feed them as smooth as it does RNFP. Before the extractor change, it would not cycle LSWC bullets at all. Not say'n all will do this-Just found it an interesting benefit that's a result of the RPP extractor in our 3, M/94's. YMMV, OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 On 11/28/2017 at 2:02 PM, Eyesa Horg said: OK--- Tried the first one in Ellie's 1894 CS .38/357. Brain faded and didn't try the gun with the old extractor first. I installed it as Frontier Mick did by pushing it out backwards out of the tube and right into the bolt, which kept the spring captive the whole way. The video showed pushing the retaining pin out from the bottom of the bolt, which I did and didn't remove it all the way. Had a bit of difficulty getting it back into the bottom hole and noticed the pin was tapered on the top end only. Maybe it got reversed B4 I bought the gun. Fired 50 rounds at different speeds and had NO issues. Brass landed just ahead of my lead foot and just to my right which would be close to 2:00. In about a 16" circle. I think I would prefer more towards 3:00 as if, I was in front of a table I think they would have landed on it. Due to my bum shoulder during one run of ten I was holding the fore stock close to the receiver and could feel the brass hitting my fingers, so they don't go out far. I used 125 gr. TC bullets in nickel cases. 3 of which split, but had no issue extracting. The cycling did feel smooth, but, as stated above, I didn't try it B4 the modification! I will try to be more scientific when I get the other one and install it in my .45 Cowboy Competition P.S. Just got off the phone with Ranger Point to inform of being short one, they were most gracious and apologetic and will get the other one out today. I have no issue with the shortage as these things happen! Especially on Black Friday! OK We are finally above zero and tried the second one in my .45 colt. Considerable work to clean the carbon out of the extractor hole due to not doing so in a couple years! A .213 drill bit helped immensely turned by fingers and lots of solvent. The cycling is noticeably smoother. The brass ejected to almost the exact same spot as the original extractor, about 20" to the right of my lead ( left )foot and about at 2:00 to the gun or just forward of my lead foot. The new Ranger Point extractor seemed to keep them a little closer together however. This part completely fills the extractor hole in the bolt, so hopefully cleaning will be easier or not needed in the hole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 I just flush the extractor area with brake cleaner, and spray some lube in. Then blow the excess out with compressed air. If you ever get the chance-Try it with some LSWC bullets just for fun. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Pat Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I ordered one also, cant wait for it to arrive, Irish Pat AKA Irish Rat !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 12/22/2017 at 2:59 PM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: The 3 I have installed in our M/94's, all showed better and more consistent ejection. OLG Pictures look a little different then mine, but believe option #1 for my Marlin. I know its dirty, but just finished a match and took this then before cleaning. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 WTH is up with the angle? Contact RPP as I have not seen that before. Yes-Looks like OPT#1 to me. How'd it work? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, Marshal Dan Troop 70448 said: Pictures look a little different then mine, but believe option #1 for my Marlin. I know its dirty, but just finished a match and took this then before cleaning. MT Wow that angle does not look right at all! Contact them at RPP, Kimberly is awesome and took VERY good care of me when I had a concern. Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The RPP Extractor position on my bolt face is like the picture posted by Marshal Dan. I think the angle is o.k. But I would be curious if anyone has a RPP Extractor that doesn't have an angle position. P.S. - My Extractor is the Option #2. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Widder-All three of mine are 'square'. I'm run'n option#1 MDT-Is that picture your OEM extractor or the RPP version? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S. Sooner, SASS #73526 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Widowmaker Hill SASS #59054 said: The RPP Extractor position on my bolt face is like the picture posted by Marshal Dan. I think the angle is o.k. But I would be curious if anyone has a RPP Extractor that doesn't have an angle position. P.S. - My Extractor is the Option #2. ..........Widder The one I have is not angled; it's parallel with side of the bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I ordered 5 more last week from RPP. Two for Option 1 and three for Option 2. I'll check them out when they arrive and post my results. Maybe even post a pic. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Avenger Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Mine works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 All 3 of mine are parallel to the side, like Billy's. Billy-You're option #2, 'rite'?? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 17 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Widder-All three of mine are 'square'. I'm run'n option#1 MDT-Is that picture your OEM extractor or the RPP version? OLG The extractor is original factory. Looking to purchase option #1 RPP. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Avenger Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 14 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: All 3 of mine are parallel to the side, like Billy's. Billy-You're option #2, 'rite'?? OLG Yes option 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 5:58 PM, Widowmaker Hill SASS #59054 said: The RPP Extractor position on my bolt face is like the picture posted by Marshal Dan. I think the angle is o.k. But I would be curious if anyone has a RPP Extractor that doesn't have an angle position. P.S. - My Extractor is the Option #2. ..........Widder I installed 2 of option #2 and they are both parallel to the bolt as in Billy's picture above. Installed in a .38/.357 and a .45 Colt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Mine is option #2 and also parallel and working great. Wyatt Hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Iron Buster Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Anyone interested SliXprings will have inventory at Winter Range. Both option #1, and #2 along with the mid range bigger lever. Big Iron Buster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Bill Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I could not tell and sent a picture. Was told to remove extractor then we send picture. Mine was option 2. Shot two matches and works great, SMOOTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Major Bill said: I could not tell and sent a picture. Was told to remove extractor then we send picture. Mine was option 2. Shot two matches and works great, SMOOTH. Thank you for the information! OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just received the new Marlin Extractor. Took less then 10 minutes to install, probable less if pin wasn't so tight to take out. First thing I noticed no resistance in the final closing as use to be with old extractor fitting into groove. Feels smoother also, first time I didn't think it had closed all the way. Now I wonder what took me so long to order this. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Wheeler Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 12/11/2017 at 6:54 PM, Dutch Wheeler said: OLG, once again you came through with flying colors by exposing this product on The Wire! Installed in my 1894 and I am pretty impressed on how it handled ejecting a split case that the original Marlin extractor would not! Just a follow-up / update... Encountered my fist split case during a live match yesterday since installing this new extractor, and I just have to say WOW! I didn't even know that I HAD a split case, until the brass picker returned it to me at the ULT! Before installing this extractor, that split case would have locked up my Marlin 1894 mid-stage! First time I have ever grinned from having a split case, because it extracted / ejected smooth as butter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thanks for the update Dutch. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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