Misty Moonshine Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Dear Valued SASS Members: After careful consideration and evaluation of the countless requests and movements regarding scoring methods for Cowboy Action Shooting™, the SASS Board of Directors do hereby decree that effective immediately, all SASS Sanctioned Cowboy Action Shooting™ matches are to be scored using Total Time. A direct email has been sent to all Club contacts, SASS Sanctioned match directors, and event organizers giving notice to this effect and requiring immediate changes to match planning to accommodate the change. SASS Sanctioned matches will no longer be allowed to use any other scoring method. We feel strongly that this monumental change will garner great support and appreciation from you- our valued members. Respectfully, Misty Moonshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Bubba Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Great job Misty, Wild Bunch and Crew!! I always feel like you all hear us!! Keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Yes! Thank you,. thank you, thank you Wild Bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 info passed on to the Thunder River Renegades' club members cr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOODFOX , sass#34179 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Thank You Woodfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Thank you Misty! This is the very BEST of news! OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Thanks Misty. Hopefully, how to score an SDQ will be addressed. Making the "reccomendation" in the existing rules the rule would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Thanks for listening Misty & WB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Really? If that don't beat all. Now what the he** are we going to argue about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red River Ray SASS#33254 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Great News !!!! And about time Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Water Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Really? If that don't beat all. Now what the he** are we going to argue about? Colt/Ruger Ginger/Mary Ann Real BP/Sub Bisley Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Shark Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 All for it. Thanks! You state "Cowboy Action Shooting." Any impact on "Wild Bunch" matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Wow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Sandor, SASS #74075 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 THANK YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ozark Shark said: You state "Cowboy Action Shooting." Any impact on "Wild Bunch" matches? Wild Bunch has totally different system. Time + misses + penalties. Best time for stage that day got 100 points. Then points awarded based on a percentage of how much slower you were. If you were 80% as fast, you get 80 points. Most points win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 43 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Thanks Misty. Hopefully, how to score an SDQ will be addressed. Making the "reccomendation" in the existing rules the rule would be nice. Isn't it 30 seconds plus however many targets on the stage times 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stump Water said: Colt/Ruger Ginger/Mary Ann Real BP/Sub Bisley Joe But nobody gets heated up about those, cept maybe Bisley Joe for those of us long enough of tooth to remember that stain in the saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheatin' Chamberlin Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hell yeah!!!!! Cheatin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Sadie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Great decision! This will please most of the CAS shooters. Thanks to Texas Jack Daniels for the great presentation he made at the EOT TG meeting and to the SASS Board of Directors for reconsidering this option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Sadie Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Thanks Misty. Hopefully, how to score an SDQ will be addressed. Making the "reccomendation" in the existing rules the rule would be nice. SASS scoring program may need to be updated to handle ties or does handle it already for Total Time ties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well how dee doo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchy Spike Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Wild Bunch has totally different system. Time + misses + penalties. Best time for stage that day got 100 points. Then points awarded based on a percentage of how much slower you were. If you were 80% as fast, you get 80 points. Most points win. Well, we could now argue about the WB scoring system! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 51 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Really? If that don't beat all. Now what the he** are we going to argue about? We'll think of something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Thank you Wild Bunch ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Kincaid Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, Goody, SASS #26190 said: Wild Bunch has totally different system. Time + misses + penalties. Best time for stage that day got 100 points. Then points awarded based on a percentage of how much slower you were. If you were 80% as fast, you get 80 points. Most points win. All of the matches I've been involved in used RP or TT. WR and EOT is the only place I've seen this scoring system used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just now, Coyote Kincaid said: All of the matches I've been involved in used RP or TT. WR and EOT is the only place I've seen this scoring system used. And all of the local matches have been allowed to use TT for ever, just State and above SASS Sanctioned matches REQUIRED RP's. I can't speak for others but I know that the Texas State WB match has used the official scoring method since it's inception. But this is all beside the point. I was just pointing out to Ozark Shark that this ruling would have no effect on WB because RP were never the mandated scoring system for SASS sanctioned matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 SDQ's will be as the maximum amount of misses on the stage plus 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Kid Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Not a fan! Never was! This will create more separation on paper and in spirit between the top shooters and the rest of the pack! But that's just my 2 cents. Most shooters really didn't know this was something that was even up for change. WK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Sometimes change takes time. But like all great organizations, SASS listened to their customers and did what needed to be done. Thanks to one and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud McCoy Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Whiskey_Kid said: Not a fan! Never was! This will create more separation on paper and in spirit between the top shooters and the rest of the pack! But that's just my 2 cents. Most shooters really didn't know this was something that was even up for change. WK In the end here's my study, I run the Westshore Posse and one I got home and entered the match by total rank and by total time and the pecking order was pretty close to being the same in match finish. The bottom line is that imho most shooters will stay within their normal finishing order ar matches. Never knock the fast shooters, become one or accept what it is you want out of shooting cowboy matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Yeah!!! but know what are we going to talk about on the wire following EOT and Winterrange? (Just joking) Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Great News, I have informed the "locals" of this decision, we have been using TT at our local matches for 8+ years, SDQ all target misses + 30 seconds! Yea Haw! TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Kid Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Sometimes change takes time. But like all great organizations, SASS listened to their customers and did what needed to be done. Thanks to one and all. But did they? or did they just listen to those that yelled the loudest? 13 minutes ago, Hud McCoy said: In the end here's my study, I run the Westshore Posse and one I got home and entered the match by total rank and by total time and the pecking order was pretty close to being the same in match finish. The bottom line is that imho most shooters will stay within their normal finishing order ar matches. Never knock the fast shooters, become one or accept what it is you want out of shooting cowboy matches. I like how it always goes to, "Never knock the fast shooters." This hurts me way less than others! And there are plenty it hurts way less than me! But its easier to figure out that the total number of shooters capable of winning a big match was at least cut in half! Also you can't just look at scores from a RP match, change it to total time and say, "See it didn't change much!" The way you play the game changes at a TT match is different than RP. WK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0ckr0ach, SASS #26100 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Upon reflection, sadness usually occurs when an Era ends. Old Timer's tales is all that remains. As evolution keeps marching on. And the younger replace the older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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