Black Angus McPherson 480 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 A coworker likes to carry a "hammer-less" .38 revolver and he asked me if anyone made a hammer-less/shrouded hammer DA revolver in .357. I don't think I've ever seen one, but I thought I'd throw the question out there to you folks. Does anyone make a .357 DA revolver in a "hammer-less" or shrouded hammer configuration? Thanks, Angus Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 7,444 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-649 Link to post Share on other sites
Alpo 8,458 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I believe the 640 is a 357 version of the 642. Link to post Share on other sites
The Tonic Kid, SASS #70340 6 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The S&W 640 and 340PD are both hammerless. On occasion I carry a model 640. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 31,366 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Yes. There are a couple in this link:http://www.guns.com/review/five-hammerless-revolvers/ S&W has the 340 and the 640 in a few variations..(select .357 and Double Action only on this link) https://www.smith-wesson.com/revolvers Out of the ones I see I would go with the Smith & Wesson...but, then again, I am biased. Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,836 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The Missus likes her S&W 640 in 38spl +p Link to post Share on other sites
Dantankerous 4,848 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I'll bet thems have no muzzle blast at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,836 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 There not sumpin' you get any desire to go plinkin' with. IMO Link to post Share on other sites
Church Key, SASS # 33713 272 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Ruger makes a couple in .357: SP101 and the LCR. I've shot a Scantium .357 S&W 2" with full power loads once; never again. Some things are just not meant to be; this is one of those things. I have a 4" Ruger GP100 .357 that's a handful at 40+ oz; less is not more with .357's. Church Key Link to post Share on other sites
Black Angus McPherson 480 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Wow, I knew I could count on you guys. Rye Miles, I thought the 649 was just a Stainless version of the 49, which I have a copy of, in .38. I didn't know they made them in .357 until now. I also didn't know the Ruger LCR came in .357. And I'd never heard of the S&W 640 or 340. I guess I need to start wandering around gun shows again to eradicate this irritating ignorance that seems to be creeping up on me. Thanks, I pass this on to my buddy. Angus Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,738 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Dantankerous said: I'll bet thems have no muzzle blast at all. The 38 Special 442 isn't bad, but I have never fired the .357 version. But remember, all of my firearms are VIRTUAL. Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Bullweed 526 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 For a 2" snubbie, the .38+P is hard to beat. A .357 in such a short barrel has quite a flash and bang, with no meaningful gain in velocity over the +P load. Link to post Share on other sites
Festus G Lonetree 201 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 20 hours ago, Tom Bullweed said: For a 2" snubbie, the .38+P is hard to beat. A .357 in such a short barrel has quite a flash and bang, with no meaningful gain in velocity over the +P load. I guess that depends on how you define meaningful. 125g 38 special +P Buffalo Bore load out of a 2" barrel should be right at 1072 fps with 319 ft-lb muzzle energy while 125g 357mag Buffalo Bore load out of the same barrel will be around 1276 fps with 452 ft-lbs muzzle energy. To me, the real question is whether the increase of around 200 fps is worth the additional recoil and the answer to that will vary from individual to individual. My everyday carry tends to be a S&W M327 PC Scandium 357 mag with a 2" barrel loaded with Barnes VOR-TX .357 mag 140gr copper hollowpoints, and they are quite controllable for me Pretty impressive for a snubbie - Link to post Share on other sites
J.D. Daily 360 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 While your choice of mfg. is limited to Ruger the 327 Federal Magnum is a better choice for a light handgun. The LCR holds 6 & is lighter & more compact than the S&W snubby 357's. The 327FM has similar ballistics to 357 125 grain cartridges. The cartridge was developed by Federal for Ruger specifically for use in small light weight handguns to maximize terminal performance out of 2" or shorter barrels & minimize recoil. MODEL NUMBER: 5452 CALIBER: 327 FED MAG GripHogue® Tamer™ Monogrip® Front SightReplaceable, Pinned Ramp Barrel Length1.87" Cylinder FinishPVD Twist1:16" RH Rear SightU-Notch Integral FinishMatte Black Weight17 oz. Height4.50" Overall Length6.50" Capacity6 Grooves6 CA ApprovedYes MA Approved & CertifiedYes Link to post Share on other sites
Dantankerous 4,848 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Good info, JD. Another option for a viable small revolver. Ammo probably not as readily available everywhere but it ain't like a feller is going to blast thousands of rounds through one of these... Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,738 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I keep coming back to the reason for the 2" barrel. This is NOT a long range firearm. As a defense weapon, the best result are probably going to be in a range of between 3 feet and perhaps 10 feet. Link to post Share on other sites
Dantankerous 4,848 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 11 hours ago, Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 said: I keep coming back to the reason for the 2" barrel. This is NOT a long range firearm. As a defense weapon, the best result are probably going to be in a range of between 3 feet and perhaps 10 feet. Yup. And almost all shots are center of mass with the last in the face. Problem solved. If you HAVE to shoot someone, make it count. End the attack. Before the attack ends you. Link to post Share on other sites
Lorelei Longshot, SASS #44256 Life 745 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I love my Smith & Wesson .38 Airweight. Link to post Share on other sites
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