Pat Riot Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Okay, let me start by saying that I should know this but I will be darned if I can't remember it and I know I have it written downs somewhere but I can't find it. What I am looking for is what are the factory spring tensions on Vaquero triggers springs and a verification of the hammer spring tensions: Vaquero hammer spring = 23 lbs Vaquero trigger spring = ? ozs New Vaquero hammer spring = 17 lbs New Vaquero trigger spring = ? ozs Do I have the correct numbers for the hammer springs and what are the trigger springs tensions? I have Googled this but all I find is BS on lightening hammer and trigger pulls but nothing on what the tensions are from the factory. I don't need to know how to do the work to lighten pulls. Just need the spring weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Go to the Wolff Gunsprings site for that info. https://www.gunsprings.com/RUGER/SINGLE%20ACTION%20SERIES/cID3/mID52/dID228 IIRC on the OMV the t'spring was 40oz. OLG Edited January 25, 2017 by The Original Lumpy Gritz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Thank you Lumpy. I did look at their site and they didn't give the trigger info but I do believe that you are correct on the 40 oz trigger spring tension. I just want to be sure simply for my own info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The OEM, NMV t'spring feels lighter than the OEM t'spring in the OMV. The NMV t'spring is pretty close to the Wolff 30oz spring. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Yes, I would agree, the NM trigger and hammer is lighter. I have to say that I really like the way my New Model feels. I wouldn't change a thing on it mechanically, unless it broke. My old model springs are okay if you are shooting two handed but one handed gets a bit tiring after a few stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I run the power custom half-cock kits and 17lb hammer and 30oz t'springs in my .44 OMVs. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 I had a 19 lb hammer spring in 2 of my old models and I had the 30 oz trigger spring but I put the 40 oz trigger spring in as I felt the 30 was too light. I have this "new to me" old model .45 Colt and I am installing a Super Blackhawk hammer and I think I want a 19 lb hammer spring with the 40 oz trigger spring but I wasn't sure if the stock spring was already 40 oz. I don't want to go too light on the hammer spring as this gun will also be a handgun that I carry hunting. It seems that Wolf and a couple others I have found start at 19 lbs and then go down from there. I always use harder primers like CCI's and Winchester as well so too light isn't good for what I want to do. This OM will also be my back CAS revolver as I plan on running 2 New Vaqueros as main match guns. I made a bit of a mistake over a year ago and sold a couple of my CAS guns that I could now kick myself for now. So now I am kind of starting over again with my SASS guns. I plan to buy another NM in .45 Colt soon as I really like the way that they feel shooting them one handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The Wolff site says that only the hammer spring is different between the OMV and the NMV. Not sure I agree with that, as I know my wife's NMVs had a t'spring that was 'lighter' than my OEM, OMV t'spring was. BTW: I run 15lb hammer spring in my wife's .357 NMVs, and have no problem pop'n CCI small rifle primers. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Good to know. Thanks. The NM spring is lighter but the hammer has a a different shape so maybe that's why it seems the same as the OM Rugers? Between the 2 that I have I can tell a big difference between the NM and OM hammers pulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Trail Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 When I bought my NM Vaquero Bisley's from Long Hunter, they came with 15# hammer springs. They would not reliably fire all round. Only fired 33 out of the first 50. I called them up and explained, they rushed me two 17# springs. No problems until recently and now about 1:40 won't fire. I was under the impression that the OEM was 19# for the Bisley's? Not sure if the straight Vaquero are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 When I bought my NM Vaquero Bisley's from Long Hunter, they came with 15# hammer springs. They would not reliably fire all round. Only fired 33 out of the first 50. I called them up and explained, they rushed me two 17# springs. No problems until recently and now about 1:40 won't fire. I was under the impression that the OEM was 19# for the Bisley's? Not sure if the straight Vaquero are different. Those sure don't sound like Wollf springs. If you have a good 'bolt-house' near you. Buy 2, #10 AN washers and install them at the base of the spring. 17lb are OEM in the NMV. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 I just went ahead and ordered a 19 lb hammer and a 40 oz trigger spring made by Wolf from Midway for my OM .45. I am always a bit leery when it comes to springs and gun reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 You can, to a point, re-arch(AKA, bend)the t'spring to help reduce trigger pull. Practice that with your OEM t'spring. FWIW: I have never had a FTF in either of my .44 OMV w/17lb Wolff hammer springs, and I run all brands of primers. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Thanks Lumpy, I believe I had a 17 lb spring in my Birdshead but I sold that one. It seems to me that it did just fine. I will try the 19 lb and see how that goes. It drives me nuts that I can't find two very important references that I have lost in one of my moves in the past few years. I had a log book that I wrote all my notes in regarding all of my guns and other shooting info and I lost my index card file with ALL my reloading information. It's like a kick in the gut not knowing where that stuff is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICIOUS, SASS#8014 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 HOWDY; I use 19 lb hammer springs on a original Blackhawk for silhouette shooting as less spring gets slow hammer fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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