Alpo Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 As in Wolfgang. How is it pronounced? Book I'm reading, it says, 'the girl says, "Mozart?" (she pronounced it moat-sart).' That little parenthetical phrase made it seem like she was saying it wrong. But that's the way I've always said it. So, is it NOT moat-sart? And if it's not, how is it? Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Mozart Pronunciation: MO-tsart Beethoven Pronunciation: BAY-toe-vuhn Bach Pronunciation: bahk Quote
Alpo Posted January 18, 2017 Author Posted January 18, 2017 So you're sayin' the (nonexistent) T is on the second syllable. Anyone know what that's called? KNIFE has a "silent K". There IS a K, you just don't pronounce it. There ain't no T in Mozart, but you DO pronounce it. There has to be a grammatical term for that. Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 So you're sayin' the (nonexistent) T is on the second syllable. Anyone know what that's called? KNIFE has a "silent K". There IS a K, you just don't pronounce it. There ain't no T in Mozart, but you DO pronounce it. There has to be a grammatical term for that. It is because the "Z" is pronounced "TZ". One would never split the T from the Z and put them into different syllables. You however are endeavoring to speak English and can say it and danged way that pleases you. Quote
J-BAR #18287 Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) The "ts" sound for "z" would probably be classified as a fricative Germanic phoneme. Be sure to use that three times in conversations today! 😉 Edited January 18, 2017 by J-BAR #18287 Quote
Tom Bullweed Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Don't forget: Joseph Haydn Frederic Chopin Giacomo Puccini Many of those early rocker dudes have names that do not follow our current pronunciation rules. Quote
DocWard Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Yes, it's called German. :-) Beat me to it. 1 Quote
Alpo Posted January 18, 2017 Author Posted January 18, 2017 It is because the "Z" is pronounced "TZ". One would never split the T from the Z and put them into different syllables. You however are endeavoring to speak English and can say it and danged way that pleases you. Hey now. There ain't no reason to be castin' asparagus. I don't not, and ain't never did, speak English, I talk good ol' American. Southern dialect. Nerve of some people's chilluns, sayin' I'm speaking English. In the post with three links, that firstus link. Although they are showing it as pronounced Mo-tsart, when listening to that 2-second sound bite, it sure sounds like he's (she's?) putting the break between the T and the S. Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Hey now. There ain't no reason to be castin' asparagus. I don't not, and ain't never did, speak English, I talk good ol' American. Southern dialect. Nerve of some people's chilluns, sayin' I'm speaking English. My apologies Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 So you're sayin' the (nonexistent) T is on the second syllable. Anyone know what that's called? KNIFE has a "silent K". There IS a K, you just don't pronounce it. There ain't no T in Mozart, but you DO pronounce it. There has to be a grammatical term for that. The Z in theGerman alphabet is pronounced TS Quote
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 the Germans , do know how to make good BIER Quote
Alpo Posted January 20, 2017 Author Posted January 20, 2017 The Z in theGerman alphabet is pronounced TS That makes WAAAAY too much sense. Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 That makes WAAAAY too much sense. The Germans alvays make sense. Ja? Quote
Alpo Posted January 20, 2017 Author Posted January 20, 2017 If they made sense, would they REALLY have an "Uncle Tom Street"? I bet there ain't even a cabin there. Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) If they made sense, would they REALLY have an "Uncle Tom Street"? I bet there ain't even a cabin there. Uf course zere iss a difference betveen Our sense und German sense. Edited January 20, 2017 by Utah Bob #35998 Quote
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