Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I just recently bought me a 1887 shotgun . Im not a fast shooter by any means . I bought it because I like the style of it . CAS is my peace of mind from the bussy life I have . I dont take any of it seriously . And love shooting with all the great shootes we have here in Michigan. Im a dark side shooter Just looking for some pointers to make things more fun and less stressful with this shotgun :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Drive it like you stole it. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Lever has a long throw. Having a shorter than normal stock helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I shoot an 87 in black and practise is always good. The hardest for me was not slamming the lever after the first shot. When I load I try to lower the barrel when I put in the shells. The gun is stock heavy and this works better for me. Try different ways to load and practise the way that feels best for you. I love shooting mine.Just have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) Stagger your shells when you drop them in. Bottom shell forward of the bottom shell. Like this. Edited November 24, 2016 by Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Rolan-Your picture and text don't jive. When you load your '87. Have the muzzle dipped down some, and when you insert the 2 shells. Slide you hand forward as this will help to chamber the top shell. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Drive it like you stole it. OLG Im a 92 shooter with NO issues that most have . I run it like I stole it . So you are saying treat the 87 the same way ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Thanks Lumpy, I fixed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Wolf , SASS# 29424L Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 If it hasn't been worked by Lassiter. Send it to him, you'll be glad you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Lassiter will make it a pleasure to shoot after he does his magic on it it. Well worth the investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Im a 92 shooter with NO issues that most have . I run it like I stole it . So you are saying treat the 87 the same way ! Yup- Make sure you keep the 2 carrier pivot screws 'TITE' OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Quoted from Lumpy's post--don't know how to fix it. Yup- Make sure you keep the 2 carrier pivot screws 'TITE' OLG +1--also I'd suggest keeping a couple EWO spares on hand. Don't ask how I know this. Edited November 25, 2016 by Crusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Yup-Make sure you keep the 2 carrier pivot screws 'TITE' OLG[/quote OK thank you . What about loading a shorter shell . Like a 2 3/4 trimmed to shells fully open to 2 3/4 . And put a roll crimp on them . This should prevent the shell from being to long after they are fired ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Wolf , SASS# 29424L Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Who made your 87? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 You should be fine-'Our' '87's are patterned after the 1901 10ga version for the longer shell. Try 2 3/4", that's all my wife and I run..... OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Who made your 87? Its a Chinese PW 87. I took it apart and smoothed And polished things up . Im just going for style not for speed :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Shoot only BP in your 87 After a few stages, look down the barrel between shots or after the fourth shot. Easy to do if you leave the SG on your shoulder. Inside of the barrel will be glowing. Not sure how this helps you but cool none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numa, #17667 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 your 87 will (should) like the cut down shells.. My China 87's seem to do better with them.. Ran regular crimps fine, just seem to work a touch better with the roll. Have been shooting 87 for bout 10 yrs both black and smokeless. And yes, run them hard. I shoot from the hip with mine. Have fun with it Numa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemetery Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Stagger your shells when you drop them in. Bottom shell forward of the bottom shell. Like this. I thought the top shell should be staggered forward..... .....anyway, I've got 4 months to practice. Edited November 27, 2016 by Cemetery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Shoot only BP in your 87 After a few stages, look down the barrel between shots or after the fourth shot. Easy to do if you leave the SG on your shoulder. Inside of the barrel will be glowing. Not sure how this helps you but cool none the less. I've shot LOTS of warthog level, BP loads in my 87's. Never saw the 'glowing' you speak of, even after and 8-10 shot string. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 your 87 will (should) like the cut down shells.. My China 87's seem to do better with them.. Ran regular crimps fine, just seem to work a touch better with the roll. Have been shooting 87 for bout 10 yrs both black and smokeless. And yes, run them hard. I shoot from the hip with mine. Have fun with it Numa Im going to try both . But I think the shorter shell with the roll crimp, Will make things go a little smoother. I cant wait till Im back on my feet . So I can get back out and play ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 your 87 will (should) like the cut down shells.. My China 87's seem to do better with them.. Ran regular crimps fine, just seem to work a touch better with the roll. Have been shooting 87 for bout 10 yrs both black and smokeless. And yes, run them hard. I shoot from the hip with mine. Have fun with it Numa Is your 87 stock ? Or who did you have work on it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I've shot LOTS of warthog level, BP loads in my 87's. Never saw the 'glowing' you speak of, even after and 8-10 shot string. OLG Noticed it a couple of times - 70 grains FF Goex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Noticed it a couple of times - 70 grains FF Goex I shoot BP loads So I will witch for this :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numa, #17667 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 One is a Coyote Cap 20" special. Other one is a 20",don't know who did work on it. I also shoot a Chiappa that finally works after Lassiter did his work on it. Numa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 One is a Coyote Cap 20" special. Other one is a 20",don't know who did work on it.I also shoot a Chiappa that finally works after Lassiter did his work on it.Numa Im going to play with this a little my self . But I am thinking I am going to send it out to Lassiter this winter :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) I thought the shell should be staggered forward..... .....anyway, I've got 4 months to practice. I will give this a try .Thank you. Edited November 27, 2016 by Rooster Ron Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemetery Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I will give this a try . Thank you. To clarify, cause I can't type, I always thought the TOP shell would be staggered forward. I fixed my post. I watch some tube of you videos of Lassister, and it looks like he has his top shell staggered forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Gun Cole Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Try feather lite hulls, they are shorter than STS hulls. My 87 works better with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrswanson1 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Just a thought. Run it like most folks run a 97. http://www.jspublications.net/records/records.html Check Badlands Bud versus T Bone Dooley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 My Lassiter 87 almost runs it self I load it sometime nice but most of the time I'm clumsy with the shells, pull the trigger and flick the lever and it takes off without any help from me ejecting the hull, I reach out and close it loading the second round then pull the trigger, flick the lever and start the process over or ground the gun depending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 My Lassiter 87 almost runs it self I load it sometime nice but most of the time I'm clumsy with the shells, pull the trigger and flick the lever and it takes off without any help from me ejecting the hull, I reach out and close it loading the second round then pull the trigger, flick the lever and start the process over or ground the gun depending I have talked to Lassiter . Looks like my 87 will be going to him this winter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 To clarify, cause I can't type, I always thought the TOP shell would be staggered forward. I fixed my post. I watch some tube of you videos of Lassister, and it looks like he has his top shell staggered forward. Cemetery, You WOULD think so, but it isn't the case. Not sure why, but even the Chiappa manual shows the top shell set back from the bottom. http://chiappafirearms.com/downloads/manuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy tornado Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 If it is an original make sure you have a screw driver with you and check your screws. I shot one for a few years, and almost lost a couple of the screws from the receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I have talked to Lassiter . Looks like my 87 will be going to him this winter . Smart move you will not regret it. He did my 87, one of my 73 my latest ruger bisleys and my uberti s&w no 3s with all the gunsmithing he's doing and match directing eot I don't see how he has time to shoot anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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