Buffalo Bill Mathewson, 37826 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I have been using American Select for a few years and my supply is low. What powders do you like for 105 gr bullets? I am looking for a clean burn with a light non position sensitive load. Thanks
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Trail Boss or Vhitavhouri N320. Clays and ClayDot also works well.
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Clean Shot is also a very good powder, with also some great usages in other calibers. I particularly like it in my .32 H&R for Cowboy shooting and in my 9mm. ..........Widder
Trailboss (Santa) Dave Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Bullseye or Unique either will work well in the 38
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Clays or Clay Dot, from loading lots of .38 spl light loads. Cleaner than most. Clay Dot runs real well, and does not get as squibby in cold weather as Clays (the Australian variety) at low loading density. But American Select is not that bad a powder. Maybe you could order more? Is AS being squibby depending upon powder position? Using a mag primer? Squibby or inconsistent in only in cold weather? Why not tell us clearly what the powder requirement is that AS doesn't do for you? Good luck, GJ
Hoss Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Bullseye works well, is inexpensive, (bought a 8# jug for 130.00) and a little pinch will go a loooooong way. I can load over 17,000 rounds out of an 8lb jug.
Buffalo Bill Mathewson, 37826 Posted September 20, 2016 Author Posted September 20, 2016 Clays or Clay Dot, from loading lots of .38 spl light loads. Cleaner than most. Clay Dot runs real well, and does not get as squibby in cold weather as Clays (the Australian variety) at low loading density. But American Select is not that bad a powder. Maybe you could order more? Is AS being squibby depending upon powder position? Using a mag primer? Squibby or inconsistent in only in cold weather? Why not tell us clearly what the powder requirement is that AS doesn't do for you? Good luck, GJ I was using American Select in .45LC 38sp and our 20ga loads. I was happy with it. As my supply started getting low I switched my 20ga loads to a Winchester powder and found I like it better, The Win powder has a bit lower recoil and runs cleaner in our 20 gauges so I am happy with my shot gun load. I switched from 45LC to 38s so I only load 38s for both my wife and myself. The problem has been locating American Select in stock. So I thought I would try something else.
billy broncstomper Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Clays or Clay Dot, from loading lots of .38 spl light loads. Cleaner than most. Clay Dot runs real well, and does not get as squibby in cold weather as Clays (the Australian variety) at low loading density. But American Select is not that bad a powder. Maybe you could order more? Is AS being squibby depending upon powder position? Using a mag primer? Squibby or inconsistent in only in cold weather? +1, also clay dot is pretty easy to find
357wheelgunner Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Bullseye works for me.Man, I have not seen Bullseye locally for going on three years now! You must have had a serious stash. Trail Boss taint much better. Did manage to pick up a couple of pounds, er, half pound, jugs of it, but lordy it 'tis $$$$ if you calculate the price per pound! Red Dot, Clay's, Unique etc. all fill the bill if you can get them. Me, I shoot Super Handicap cause it is the only fast burn powder I have been able to get consistently, and reasonably priced, locally for the last 4 years!(Yes i know it is not an "approved" pistol powder) I shudder to think what component supply will be like if the wicked witch of the east gets elected! YMMV
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 As my supply started getting low I switched my 20ga loads to a Winchester powder and found I like it better ...... (in cartridges) I only load 38s for both my wife and myself. The problem has been locating American Select in stock. So I thought I would try something else. Well, ok, we'll try this line of questions then. WHAT Win powder are you using in 20 gauge? Either WSF or WST would make a load in .38 spl that would work reasonably well. Then you might be down to just having to keep on hand one Winchester powder. Availability of those two Win powders mentioned above has been pretty good at least out west recently. Good luck, GJ
Buffalo Bill Mathewson, 37826 Posted September 20, 2016 Author Posted September 20, 2016 GJ, Win Super Handicap in the 20ga. And yes rifle and pistol cartridges are all 38s and still American Select until the jug runs dry.
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 For cowboy matches and general plinking. Unique, then WW231/HP-38. OLG
Buffalo Bill Mathewson, 37826 Posted September 20, 2016 Author Posted September 20, 2016 Well, ok, we'll try this line of questions then. WHAT Win powder are you using in 20 gauge? Either WSF or WST would make a load in .38 spl that would work reasonably well. Then you might be down to just having to keep on hand one Winchester powder. Availability of those two Win powders mentioned above has been pretty good at least out west recently. Good luck, GJ Which of the two ,WSF and WST would you pick for light 38s?
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I used Unique for years, got hard to find, switched to 700X very happy with it. Cleaner and uses less powder, easier to find.
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 ok gonna be the smart a##, Goex Rafe
357wheelgunner Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 ok gonna be the smart a##, Goex Rafe Shucks Rafer, the OP dinna say going over to the dark side was a consideration!
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Yep, WST. Clean, lights off nicely in light loads, not position sensitive. Measures very accurately - almost too fine to stay in some measures (slight leaking unless slide bars are a close fit). Good luck, GJ
Lead Ringer Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 OK my turn......titegroup, red dot, green dot, HP38/W231, 700x, solo 1000, competition, unique, ACC #.2, bullseye, clean shot, True blue, Winchester AA, WST, clays, Clay dot, N32c tin star, ACc#5, Zip, and I'm sure I've left a few out😉 There are a bunch of powders that will do great👍🏼 Regards, Ringer
Blastmaster Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 OK my turn......titegroup, red dot, green dot, HP38/W231, 700x, solo 1000, competition, unique, ACC #.2, bullseye, clean shot, True blue, Winchester AA, WST, clays, Clay dot, N32c tin star, ACc#5, Zip, and I'm sure I've left a few out There are a bunch of powders that will do great Regards, Ringer Yep!! About anything works for Cowboy ammo that only has to get a pill out 15feet and the target is as big as a washing machine. Add Promo, BE86 to your list & probably Blue Dot , SR4756, SR7625 will burn and work. American Select is very good too. but that was mentioned above.
Three Foot Johnson Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 So many choices - probably at least 15-20 powders that work very well in .38 spl.
Slate Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 I haven't loaded any 105gr bullets, but for just about anything else in 38 Special, I really like HS-6. Best regards,
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 Unique time after time people ask this same question. You can load just about anything with Unique . It don't do everything the best . But it will do everything ! http://gofundme.com/roncarpenter
SOUTH-PACIFIC,SASS #59402 Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 tight group .38 for cowboy, trail boss .45 and 45/70 found no problems with various loads. all non cowboy loads are accurate #2. ben using these powders for years with no problems
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 Red Dot, I use it in .38 special, .45acp and .45 Colt. Blackfoot
Ripsaw Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 I used Unique for years, got hard to find, switched to 700X very happy with it. Cleaner and uses less powder, easier to find. +1 on 700x. Same load/results as Clays. (or darn close).
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 RED DOT or Promo will handle all your main match needs from pistols to shotguns... Jabez Cowboy
Ripsaw Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 OK, one more. Nitro 100 NF. Meters beautifully.
Renegade Roper Posted September 21, 2016 Posted September 21, 2016 We switched from American Select (rifle) & Win 231 (pistols) to Clean Shot in both. We found Clean Shot is not as dirty & has more of a "push" recoil in the pistols rather than a "pop" recoil.
Three Foot Johnson Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 I've never understood why Accurate #2 isn't more popular in .38 spl.
Blastmaster Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 I've never understood why Accurate #2 isn't more popular in .38 spl. Not a dependable supply source for me, from the beginning of time.
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