July Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Looking at selling some of my unused guns in order to finance my new SASS hobby/addiction. I have bought a number of guns and sold a number of gun related items through gun broker, but never sold any guns online. I understand as an individual I need to include a copy of my drivers license, and I can only legally ship to a valid FFL, but which states are simply best to avoid? Shipping through my local FFL is cost prohibitive, so I will only be shipping as an individual. Anyone have a list or link of states that are a no go? Also is there a cheaper way to legally ship handguns? UPS has no problem shipping long guns via ground with insurance for around $20-35, but handguns they are required (company policy) to overnight or next day which is $80 or more. FedEx has the same over night policy and is about the same price. USPS does not deal with individuals shipping handguns. Are there any other services I might have overlooked? Or should just plan on selling handguns locally? Edit: The majority of what I can stand to clear out of the safe are older (pre-lock) S&W revolvers and a Pre-Safety Marlin or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Douglas Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 You could talk to a local FFL. If you get them all the information from the receiving FFL and pay for shipping, they might be willing to help you out. As far as where not to send it, I've only ever sold an AR upper on Gunbroker. California, Massachusetts, and New York are the ones to watch out for. It all depends on what you are selling. A quick google search of those states gun laws will tell you if it's a "legal" handgun. Your FFL could probably also clarify where you could send a handgun if you tell them what kind it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 You could talk to a local FFL. If you get them all the information from the receiving FFL and pay for shipping, they might be willing to help you out. As far as where not to send it, I've only ever sold an AR upper on Gunbroker. California, Massachusetts, and New York are the ones to watch out for. It all depends on what you are selling. A quick google search of those states gun laws will tell you if it's a "legal" handgun. Your FFL could probably also clarify where you could send a handgun if you tell them what kind it is. Thank you for your advice. I have talked to my local FFL (actually 45mins away). They would really rather not bother with shipping firearms, so they charge the actual UPS shipping cost plus the $30 transfer fee. I think that is fair for them, but not that great a deal for me seeing as I can legally ship a firearm myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 You could talk to a local FFL. If you get them all the information from the receiving FFL and pay for shipping, they might be willing to help you out. As far as where not to send it, I've only ever sold an AR upper on Gunbroker. California, Massachusetts, and New York are the ones to watch out for. It all depends on what you are selling. A quick google search of those states gun laws will tell you if it's a "legal" handgun. Your FFL could probably also clarify where you could send a handgun if you tell them what kind it is. CA. is easy for a non-FFL to ship to. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Smith Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 CA. is easy for a non-FFL to ship to. OLG Really? I would have thought that CA would have been impossible to legally ship to. I guess it would depend on what I am selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 IF you can get your ffl to ship the handgun via the USPS, that is the cheapest way. A 2 day Priority mail box with insurance would likely be under $25.00. Obviously, the store will charge you their fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Call our DOJ-firearms unit for details. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/contact OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Douglas Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 CA. is easy for a non-FFL to ship to. OLG I should clarify that I didn't mean shipping guns in general. I was referring to "compliant" guns, as in whether or not it's legal for sale in the states I mentioned. Mass., for example, has so many "laws" I personally wouldn't even deal with trying to ship a gun there, period. I'm not familiar with all the ever changing gun regulations in those states. I was just suggesting to get in touch with an FFL to make sure it won't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 California is not that difficult to ship to, especially for a private party. Long guns can ship USPS, handguns have to go UPS or Fed-ex, both of which require overnight shipping. If an FFL ships to California they have to go online and register so California knows they are really an FFL. Not that big of a deal. BUT, some California FFL's will not accept from a private party. I deal with 2 FFL's because of this. The close one does not accept out of state private transfers, the other one does but is further away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grizzly Dave Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I use a FFL that works out of his house, retired cop. He can ship USPS and charges me actual shipping plus a fee for his services, been a while, it might have been 20 bucks or so. For something that I would do very seldom, it was worth that to make sure it was done right and not to have to wade thru all the regulations myself. And it also helped support a nice guy supplement his retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I try at all costs, to avoid having any dealings with the state of.................................Confusion. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Shipping to California is not difficult. Ignorant or angry FFL's and gun owners in other states who refuse to ship to California are responsible for the myths that abound related to shipping firearms into the State. The quickest way for a shipping FFL to handle shipping to CA is to call the receiving CA FFL and have him walk him through the one or two minute online process. I don't believe that individuals shipping to a CA FFL have to go through the CA DOJ online process, but I'm not sure of that. Most FFL's will not accept shipments from individuals. Were I listing on Gun Broker, I would just state that shipments will follow all legal guidelines and will be between currently active FFL's in your state and the ship-to state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I'm surprised that you should have any problems selling those Marlins to someone in Texas. Most of the older JM branded Marlins sell well, assuming condition and price are reasonable. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 California is not that difficult to ship to, especially for a private party. Long guns can ship USPS, handguns have to go UPS or Fed-ex, both of which require overnight shipping. If an FFL ships to California they have to go online and register so California knows they are really an FFL. Not that big of a deal. BUT, some California FFL's will not accept from a private party. I deal with 2 FFL's because of this. The close one does not accept out of state private transfers, the other one does but is further away. Exactly the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Shipping to California is pretty easy. I've had about 12 guns shipped into the state in the last 8 months, problem free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I avoid the state of Dallas...clearly it is not part of Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex M Rugers #6621 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 July , sent you a PM. Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I have bought and sold about 30 guns online, more than some others, less than some others. I do not sell to Illinois, left coast states, states northeast of Virginia, Alaska or Hawaii. I always ship through an FFL that is large enough to get a Fedex or UPS discount, often 40% or more. I also make use of local consigment shops that specialize in antique, fine or tactical arms. They often have buyers with a wish list and can help me with valuing older guns. Good luck. You may maximize your value by posting your guns on the classified forum to trade for guns, some that may already be tuned or broken in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I should clarify that I didn't mean shipping guns in general. I was referring to "compliant" guns, as in whether or not it's legal for sale in the states I mentioned. Mass., for example, has so many "laws" I personally wouldn't even deal with trying to ship a gun there, period. I'm not familiar with all the ever changing gun regulations in those states. I was just suggesting to get in touch with an FFL to make sure it won't be a problem. Buff: As a private handgun seller, the only MA laws that really affect you (assuming you are sending to a MA FFL) is to make sure in advance that the particular model of gun you are selling is "approved" for sale in MA. The FFL that you are dealing with on the receiving end will have a current list, and can tell you that easily. If you need an FFL to deal with, I recommend: Four Seasons Firearms 76R Winn St. Woburn, MA 781-932-3133 Ask for Carl - the owner. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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