Nasty Nels Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I don't know if anyone has looked at the thread, "Cowboy Action Shooting - videos in high speed" but it causes serious concern for me. I have no idea who is acting as TO, but I think it is an excellent video to show at RO I class on how NOT to be a Timer Operator! My flak jacket is on, so let'r rip. My $.02 are out. NN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 INCOMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For those who can't find what he is talking about. http://www.sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=255472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Well NN, you ain't wrong. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Derringer Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 But it's shaded, there's something to lean on, and an unobstructed view of the targets.... Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack SASS#87384 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I've seen worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 it is rare that I see a vid that I like how the TO is working,, but then I'm really picky!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sam, SASS #34718L Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 He ain't the worst I've seen, But he definitely needs an RO refresher course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I wonder if sometimes the videos are done to see how many are paying attention and catch the most wrong items like a where's Waldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 It's just in case the spotters are wrong the T.O. can over-ride their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Maybe if someone offered constructive criticism, this thread would have some merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 RO 1 pg 5 item 4 Stay Within Arms Length. In order to stop an unsafe act, the Chief Range Officer must be within arms length of the shooter. In fact, the appropriate position for the Chief Range Officer is behind and off to the strong side of the shooter. In other words, if the shooter is right handed, the Chief Range Officer should be within arms length of the shooter, to the rear and right of centerline. In this way, you can see the shooter operate the gun with his or her strong hand. NEVER let the competitor get away from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 A good reminder to "watch the gun" and transitions. Watching the targets is not our job as a TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 |:-) :-) :-) (-: (-: (-: ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Maybe if someone offered constructive criticism, this thread would have some merit. He's not standing behind the shooter on the shooter's strong side. The half wall between him and the shooter could potentially keep him from preventing an unsafe act by the shooter. He's not watching the guns other than when they're first engaged. He's clearly watching the targets. He's in no way evaluating the shooter to anticipate anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Now you're talkin'! Bravo gents for offering constructive criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 If you watch the whole thing, he is more attentive with some shooters than others, quite likely because he knows the skills levels of each. As to position, that prop is narrow enough that 'behind and to the side' may not be practical much of the time, especially with wide bodies like me. Footing behind the shooting position may also come in to play. There are things to learn to be sure. This thread does illustrate why some folks ask not to be videotaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 This thread does illustrate why some folks ask not to be videotaped. This is true. I don't know the Cowboy or affiliated with the club, but the video shows one segment that can be construed that the TO is lacking in his duties. What it doesn't show is how many times this TO has performed his functions in near perfect performance. He obviously must have some good TO qualities or shooters wouldn't want him to be a TO. My guess is that the club is now probably short atleast 1 more volunteer to serve as TO, RO, etc... I'm glad ALLIE directed this into a more positive, constructive direction... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Some (from another thread) would say the TO was doing an excellent job of looking for edgers so he could introduce doubt to the spotters if the three spotters didn't see said edger. Four sets of eyes looking for edger hits is better than three sets of eyes by 33%, Of course, there are trade offs, like NOT assisting the shooter in a prompt manner, with brain fades and other potential safety items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I think it would be interesting to see some of the "Good TO's" post some videos of them running the clock so we could all see what a TO should look like, but I'm guessing we wouldn't get any volunteers to step in front of this firing squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 TO should look at the timer during the last few shoots to insure timer has recorded the last shot. TO should show the Shooter the time the timer has recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Derringer Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I think it would be interesting to see some of the "Good TO's" post some videos of them running the clock so we could all see what a TO should look like, but I'm guessing we wouldn't get any volunteers to step in front of this firing squad! "I'm your huckleberry." I usually try to shoot first and then run the timer for 10-15 shooters, so I'm always open to suggestions on being a better TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 "I'm your huckleberry." I usually try to shoot first and then run the timer for 10-15 shooters, so I'm always open to suggestions on being a better TO. I love it! Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I don't like to spot or time for more than six shooters. My concentration fades and I don't give the shooters my best effort. They deserve my full focus when shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The video has been changed to Private, so we can't watch this video any longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The video has been changed to Private, so we can't watch this video any longer? Just a guess, Warden filmed and edited and posted the video for entertainment, not to see his good pard get roasted for how he ran the timer. Rather than continue to have folks tear apart his pards efforts, he made the video private. Just a guess, but I would have done the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The video has been changed to Private, so we can't watch this video any longer? Oops, look like Grizzly Dave beat me to the keyboard. Are you really surprised? A fellow member took the time to post a video he thought others would enjoy watching, instead this garbage thread gets started for the sole purpose of bashing the video. But I guess there are those who will call this sort of thread informational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Enough! Something positive could have come from this. Instead some of you would prefer to focus on the negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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