Mt.Zion Yellowboy, SASS #44074 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I am looking for a pair of 1851 (I think) .38 conversion pistols with 5" or less barrels. I think what I am looking for are "open tops" but not sure of the terminology. Let me know. Thanks, Yellowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Yes. What you are looking for are based on the Open Top design. 4 3/4 inch barrel guns should be available from both Cimarron and Taylor's. Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt.Zion Yellowboy, SASS #44074 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Thanks for the input. They may be a bit too proud of their's for ole dad's pocket book. I am hoping some safe queens will surface here. Yellowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I have one that is the "Man With No Name" model with the rattlesnake on the right grip. It has a 7 1/2 inch barrel which is longer than you requested but it is in great condition and is only $500 shipped. shoots 38 special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Green Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 "Open tops" are the cartridge revolvers manufactured by Colt in 1871-1872; essentially from the expiration of the White patent on breach loading cartridge revolvers until the introduction of the much improved Single Action Army model. The Open Top models were designed from scratch as a cartridge revolver and manufactured using all new parts. Prior to (and concurrent with) production of the Open Top models, Colt developed and implemented methods of converting revolvers that were originally cap and ball (black powder) to fire cartridges. Models converted include the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army and 1861 Navy among others. Among the 1860 Army models at one point Colt had more usable frames than they had usable barrels so they manufactured new barrels referred to as S-lug barrels which were specifically made for cartridge conversions meaning they have no provision for a loading lever that would be used for black powder. These cartridge conversions were extremely popular even long after the introduction of the SAA because most cowboys weren't exactly rich and a converted 1860 Army or 1851 Navy could be bought for half the price of a peacemaker while being equally deadly. So, the point of all this is that usually the term "Open Top" refers to a specific Colt model made in 1871-1872. The 1851 you are looking for would be more accurately referred to as a "Cartridge Conversion". Having said that, some people do refer to any wedge revolver, from Walker to Open Top as an "Open Top" revolver simply because there is no top strap. And there's your history lesson for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Pretty good explanation there, Casey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 If you are looking a pair of Cimmaron 51 Navy Richard Mason conversions in 38 Special, I have a pair. They where reworked by Ron Snover. If interested PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallon, SASS 20190 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Marshal TKD is a good pard to deal with. A man of his word. Fallon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Marshal TKD is a good pard to deal with. A man of his word. Fallon I'll second that, bought a cart from him a couple years ago. It was better than he described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I suppose, from Casey's standpoint I probably shouldn't have over simplified for a nice short answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Thanks for the kind words Fallon and Bull Skinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I have a pair of Opentops 5.5 inch barrels, in 45 Schofield. if interested let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safecracker Solon 69206L Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I have a pair of 1851 open tops revolvers with both the black powder cylinders (.36) and conversion cylinders (.38) with 7 1/2" barrels for $800 plus shipping for the pair. If you are interested, let me know and I can send pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tame Bill #30699 Life Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Yellowboy, Send me a PM with your email. I know of a 5 1/2" pair in 38 special new and unfired that are available. I have images and contact information from the dealer. Tame Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt.Zion Yellowboy, SASS #44074 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Thanks for the replies, boys. For some reason I cannot sign in at home on the laptop so I am limited right now on responding. I will catch up soon. Yellowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt.Zion Yellowboy, SASS #44074 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 Marshal TKD, Inbox must be full. "cannot received messages" is what I got. Call me at 843-636-1699. Thanks, Yellowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Bluesteele, SASS #37143 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I have a pair of .38 caliber 51 Navy Conversions with 4 1/2" barrels and an extra set of 7 1/2" barrels. $800 plus shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe T Vator Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Gunbroker has 2 new uberti open tops for $525.00 if you are still looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt.Zion Yellowboy, SASS #44074 Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 I have made a deal on a set. Thanks to all for the input. Yellowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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