What's your call

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

Howdy

Sometimes here in Australia we have load 9 in the pistol stages. [ Don't ask !! ]

If a shooter when at the unloading table is discovered to have overloaded one round ..what's the call ?

Yes there is the rule to cover the longarm, but does this also mean the pistol ?

A no call was given.....................which I go with, or am I [ we ] wrong

[Cat Brules]

A miss, or stage DQ if the live round is under the hammer.

[Blastmaster]

where Cat is coming from: SHB/ pg24 /#10

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

where Cat is coming from: SHB/ pg24 /#10

 

The "miss for the unfired round" in this case would NOT APPLY if the shooter fired the number of rounds required by the stage instructions.

There is NO PENALTY for "overloading" a revolver as long as it is not holstered or staged with a live round under the hammer; just as there is no "overloading" penalty for rifles unless the extra round is left in the firearm. That would be an MSV, which DOES NOT APPLY to revolvers.

 

​The "no call" in the OP is correct.

[Blastmaster]

where does this (below) fit in?

First sentences says Six-guns are 'ALWAYS' loaded....

Third sentences says.....

Does third sentences trump Always?

 

Of course, there is no penalty for either.

 

I ask because at one time, I considered writing a stage with something less than 5rds per revolver, but decided it would not be legal.

 

Thanks.

 

 

RO!-pg15-#4

 

 

Six-guns are ALWAYS loaded with only five rounds and the hammer lowered and resting on the empty chamber. Five-shooters may load five rounds, but the hammer must rest on a dummy chamber or safety slot or pin in the cylinder so the hammer does not rest on a live round/cap. All guns are loaded based upon stage requirements. If a particular stage requires a one shot reload, the sixth chamber of percussion revolvers may be charged at the bench and then capped ―on the clock‖, either before the first round is fired or after the last round is fired. A complete reload for percussion revolver shooters is handled by staging a loaded, uncapped revolver down range or switching uncapped cylinders and capping on the clock. Loading a revolver to maximum capacity and lowering the hammer on a live round and/or holstering or staging the fully loaded revolver will result in a Stage Disqualification

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

where does this (below) fit in?

First sentences says Six-guns are 'ALWAYS' loaded....

Third sentences says.....

Does third sentences trump Always?

 

Of course, there is no penalty for either.

 

I ask because at one time, I considered writing a stage with something less than 5rds per revolver, but decided it would not be legal.

 

Thanks.

 

 

RO!-pg15-#4

 

 

Six-guns are ALWAYS loaded with only five rounds and the hammer lowered and resting on the empty chamber. Five-shooters may load five rounds, but the hammer must rest on a dummy chamber or safety slot or pin in the cylinder so the hammer does not rest on a live round/cap. All guns are loaded based upon stage requirements. If a particular stage requires a one shot reload, the sixth chamber of percussion revolvers may be charged at the bench and then capped ―on the clock‖, either before the first round is fired or after the last round is fired. A complete reload for percussion revolver shooters is handled by staging a loaded, uncapped revolver down range or switching uncapped cylinders and capping on the clock. Loading a revolver to maximum capacity and lowering the hammer on a live round and/or holstering or staging the fully loaded revolver will result in a Stage Disqualification

 

That is simply a prohibition against fully loading a 6-shooter at the LT (ending up with a live round under the hammer...regardless of any cylinder notches or manipulation to put the firing pin between case heads)

There is no penalty for loading less than five rounds in a six chambered revolver...other than probably having to load 'on the clock'...neither does it forbid a full 6-round revolver reload mid-stage.

 

Note also that, in event of a "dud" round in a revolver, a round may be loaded in the empty chamber of a six-gun to complete the stage; without having to eject the offending bad round...with NO PENALTY aside from the time it takes to do so.

Some clubs (apparently) will assess a MSV for 'round remaining' in a revolver that actually ONLY applies to LONG GUNS.

[Rye Miles #13621]

Howdy

Sometimes here in Australia we have load 9 in the pistol stages. [ Don't ask !! ]

If a shooter when at the unloading table is discovered to have overloaded one round ..what's the call ?

Yes there is the rule to cover the longarm, but does this also mean the pistol ?

A no call was given.....................which I go with, or am I [ we ] wrong

Sorry but I gotta ask….why 9 rounds????

[Ace_of_Hearts]

Sorry but I gotta ask….why 9 rounds????

I have seen stage writers do this with revolvers so the shooting sequence will match/duplicate a 9 shot rifle string.

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

I have seen stage writers do this with revolvers so the shooting sequence will match/duplicate a 9 shot rifle string.

 

I have seen stage writers do this with revolvers so the shooting sequence will match/duplicate a 9 shot rifle string.

 

 

Yep that's it !

[Painted Mohawk SASS 77785]

 

The "miss for the unfired round" in this case would NOT APPLY if the shooter fired the number of rounds required by the stage instructions.

There is NO PENALTY for "overloading" a revolver as long as it is not holstered or staged with a live round under the hammer; just as there is no "overloading" penalty for rifles unless the extra round is left in the firearm. That would be an MSV, which DOES NOT APPLY to revolvers.

 

​The "no call" in the OP is correct.

 

 

The "miss for the unfired round" in this case would NOT APPLY if the shooter fired the number of rounds required by the stage instructions.

There is NO PENALTY for "overloading" a revolver as long as it is not holstered or staged with a live round under the hammer; just as there is no "overloading" penalty for rifles unless the extra round is left in the firearm. That would be an MSV, which DOES NOT APPLY to revolvers.

 

​The "no call" in the OP is correct.

 

 

Thanks PWB..........