Snakebite Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 I was very pleased to see that the targets at WR this year were set at a reasonable distance. I hope the WR example incourages others to move targets back to the SASS recommended distances. This was a beautifully designed and layed out match. Quote
Bad Hand Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Didn't seem to slow anyone down. I agree on the target placement, and really like the chance to "choose your options". Quote
Shooting Bull Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Who won winter range? I can pretty confidently say I did NOT Quote
AZCarebear Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 "Great WINTER RANGE" Thanks to all involved. You did a great job as usual.. Quote
Blackey Cole Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 It was a great match the best I've been to I think. Targets were hitable. A lot of movement and a couple of odd sweeps but very shootable. The Rangers did a great job setting it up and keeping it running, very nice props and stages. Quote
Whooper Crane, SASS #52745 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Another great shoot from the Rough Riders!!! What a wonderful way to spend a few spring days here in the Old West. If you haven't done WR before, now would be a fine time to start planning to do it in 2017. Thanks for the happy trails, guys. Quote
williemescal Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Thank you Griz. Hope to meet you someday. Quote
Billy the Avenger Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Thank you Griz. Hope to meet you someday. I got to meet Grizzly Dave A really nice guy  Billy the Avenger Quote
Colt Westyn Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 SASS is posting category winner's on their Facebook page Quote
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Since there is more than one SASS face book page, Â What is the actual link? Â https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cowboy-action-shooting/692234304136708?fref=ts&rf=106682112705928 Â https://www.facebook.com/groups/2362881580/ Â https://www.facebook.com/sassnet/?fref=ts Edited February 28, 2016 by Marauder SASS #13056 Quote
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/sassnet/?fref=nf   here i8s the link Rafe Quote
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 A brother and sister act! Â Cody James & SASS Kicker!!! Quote
Dirt Merchant # 61422 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Yahoo for Fast Eddie. Senior National Champion Quote
Don Coyote, SASS #63736 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Squeaky & I are just so tickled that Cody & SK took it all home! We are fortunate to be able to shoot with them and their Dad here in the Verde Valley of AZ on a routine basis. We're very proud to have the Kirkham family amongst our circle of shooting friends. As a family, they're great people. As shooters, they're unparalleled!! Great Job,both of you!!! Congrats to Mom & Dad too! Quote
Shamrock Sadie Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Congratulations to the 2 Top Shooters and all of the Category Winners! Well done!  Top Cowboy: Cody James Top Cowgirl: SASS Kicker  Buckarette: Lily Bleu Buckaroo: Texas Twister B-Western: Texas Slim Lady B-Western: Panhandle Cowgirl Cattle Baron: Rowdy Otis Cattle Baroness: Ramblin' Rose Classic Cowboy: Slick McClade Classic Cowgirl: Serenity Cowboy: Single Barrel Cowgirl: SASS Kicker Duelist: Pecos Nick Lady Duelist: Dixie Bell Elder Statesman: Blue Ridge Ranger Grande Dame: Two Sons 49er: Oklahoma Dee L49er: Texas Tiger Frontier Cartridge: Snakebite Lady Frontier Cartridge: Bent Barrel Betty Frontier Cartridge Duelist: Four Bucks Lady Frontier Cartridge Duelist: Cow Catcher Frontier Cartridge Gunfighter: Boaz Lady Frontier Cartridge Gunfighter: Half-A-Hand-Henri Frontiersman: Brisco Kid Grand Patron: Bloody Bill Anderson Gunfighter: Whisperin' Wade Lady Gunfighter: Lilly Long Young Gun Boys (Junior): Cody James Young Gun Girls (Junior): Bonnie MacFarlane Senior: Fast Eddie Lady Senior: Belinda Belle Silver Senior: Ole Short Tom Lady Silver Senior: Second Fiddle Sue Senior Duelist: JM Brown Senior Gunfighter: Lassiter Lady Wrangler: Echo Meadows Wrangler: Cowboy Carty Edited February 29, 2016 by Shamrock Sadie Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Looks like our Ohio pard Stone Creek Drifter came in 2nd. in FCD! Congrats Stoney!! Quote
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Only 40 clean shooters Quote
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Only 40 clean shooters  I wonder how many competitors at WR have much of a chance to shoot during the previous months leading up to WR.  Just wondering.  A hearty Congratulations to all the Category winners.   ..........Widder Edited February 28, 2016 by Widowmaker Hill SASS #59054 Quote
Whiskey Kid Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Only 40 clean shooters Yup, seems a little low to me....about 4.5% based on my math. Quote
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Congratulations to Boaz -- FCGF Champion -- Fine job pard! --Dawg Quote
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 May be a good idea to shoot rifle targets with your pistols before next year Quote
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Hittable,,, 10 and 11 yds for a couple stages Edited February 28, 2016 by Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Quote
Whiskey Kid Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Hittable,,, 10 and 11 yds for a couple stages Yup, 10 and 11 yd pistols isn't something you see very often. Quote
Snakebite Posted February 29, 2016 Author Posted February 29, 2016 I Didn't see any pistol targets even close to that distance. Many clubs have moved Targets in so close, that any target set even remotely close to the recommended distance seems like long range. Quote
Medicine Creek Johnny Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Congratulations Snakebite. Well done MCJ Quote
Whiskey Kid Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I Didn't see any pistol targets even close to that distance. Many clubs have moved Targets in so close, that any target set even remotely close to the recommended distance seems like long range. Me and several other well known shooters paced several stages off that did indead have pistol targets at 10 yards. That is not on opinion, or even an educated guess. Â My observation was that there were many frustrated shooters as a result of target distance. Was everything hittable....Yes....was it as fun as it could be, in my opinion, nope! Â WK Quote
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I walked off stages 11 and 12.. I did not guess Quote
Two Spurs Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I Didn't see any pistol targets even close to that distance. Many clubs have moved Targets in so close, that any target set even remotely close to the recommended distance seems like long range.Oh really? People who regularly set up stages most certainly can judge target distances compared to the SASS recommended 7 yard minimum. Not to mention when steeping off the targets out of curiousity your suspicions are verified. Â Don't get me wrong- I am not complaining. I had a fantastic time at my first WR, was proud of my finish, and acknowledge a wagon train load of crazy hard work. A huge thanks. But 40 clean shooters out of approximately 830 is way thin by generally accepted standards. Â And by the way- your second sentence is insultingly ludicrous. Â A good evening to all. Quote
Lou Graham, # 26112 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 The match was incredible. I've been to 14 Winter Ranges and this was the most challenging of them all. The targets were of generous size and yes, some were sitting in the dirt, some were over my head and the rest were spread out in between but they were certainly all within SASS recommendations for distance. Farther than many are used to but after all, it is the National Championship - maybe it should be a little tougher. Â The distance was not always easy to discern (unless you had paced it off ahead) so a few of us got skunked the first stage or two and then starting paying attention to our front sights. There were lots of options for how to stage the guns ("anywhere safely" was common) and also options to move left to right or right to left. Every stage was Gunfighter Friendly. There were options on which targets of an array to use, options to shoot from different positions, you could practically write your own stage! It may have been too many choices for newer shooters or those from clubs where every move is always scripted and defined, but again, this is the National Championships. I like the idea you could use those options to minimize a weakness or take maximum advantage of your strengths. It was interesting to see how different shooting styles would pick different ways to run the stages. It also gave BP shooters an option to get away from the smoke and move to a different target if the breeze wasn't with you at that moment. Â As always, the WR crew knocked themselves out - beautiful stages and props, keeping the water coming as it was hotter than is typical, fireworks, nice prizes, answering questions, solving problems, fixing things, taking care of everything and everybody all week long. Â The match was incredible. Quote
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 The match was incredible. I've been to 14 Winter Ranges and this was the most challenging of them all. The targets were of generous size and yes, some were sitting in the dirt, some were over my head and the rest were spread out in between but they were certainly all within SASS recommendations for distance. Farther than many are used to but after all, it is the National Championship - maybe it should be a little tougher. Â The distance was not always easy to discern (unless you had paced it off ahead) so a few of us got skunked the first stage or two and then starting paying attention to our front sights. There were lots of options for how to stage the guns ("anywhere safely" was common) and also options to move left to right or right to left. Every stage was Gunfighter Friendly. There were options on which targets of an array to use, options to shoot from different positions, you could practically write your own stage! It may have been too many choices for newer shooters or those from clubs where every move is always scripted and defined, but again, this is the National Championships. I like the idea you could use those options to minimize a weakness or take maximum advantage of your strengths. It was interesting to see how different shooting styles would pick different ways to run the stages. It also gave BP shooters an option to get away from the smoke and move to a different target if the breeze wasn't with you at that moment. Â As always, the WR crew knocked themselves out - beautiful stages and props, keeping the water coming as it was hotter than is typical, fireworks, nice prizes, answering questions, solving problems, fixing things, taking care of everything and everybody all week long. Â The match was incredible. Can not agree more. There were fewer clean matches, however even an old fart could hit every shot. BJZ does an excellent job of varying target heights, distances, and sizes to cause the shooter to vary their speed within a sequence many times within a stage to ensure a hit on every target. WR is a thinking match. You must determine how you will shoot each target and each sequence. This does not require a lot of time, you can do it even as the first shooter on every stage of the match. This was my 15th WR. It was the best ever. I would like to personally thank all those that worked so hard to pull off this wonderful match. Quote
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Many thanks to the Rangers, the Winter Range board, BJZ, and every one that put time, sweat, and heart into a SPECTACULAR MATCH. Quote
Snakebite Posted February 29, 2016 Author Posted February 29, 2016 TwoSpurs, my apology for offending you.I assure you it was not my intention. Target placement has long been a controversial topic. I thought the targets were a good mix, accomdating both the high speed operator game and the slower more deliberat shooter's game. Quote
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) My observation was that there were many frustrated shooters as a result of target distance. Was everything hittable....Yes....was it as fun as it could be, in my opinion, nope! Â WK +1 on Snakebite's comments. This was one of the best matches I have ever been to and yes, sights were required :-). Â There were some stages that were SASS minimums and a few that were a bit closer. The entire match was shootable and while I didn't shoot well, it wasn't because of target placement or scenarios. Â Whiskey Kid, I did not hear a single comment during or after the match that the targets were too far away. My posse had the whole gamete from newer shooters to very experienced shooters. Could the match been more fun, as far as I could see, everyone was having a blast. If it wasn't fun, you weren't shooting. Â The whole Winter Range crew deserves a big thank you for their effort in making the Silver Jubilee a memorable occasion. Edited February 29, 2016 by Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Quote
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