Phiren Smoke GUNFIGHTER Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The president, many congressmen, governors, mayors, and activists are anti gun, but that does not change the constitution or the opinions of the majority of the citizens of the United States. Would you call the US anti gun? Similarly the pope, many cardinals, bishops, priests, and activists are anti gun, but that has not changed church doctrine or the opinions of catholics here in the US and around the world. We may be his flock, but we are not sheep. Yes I see the hypocrisy. Francis has armed guards, but so does Obama. Hope this helps, Smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Jack Daniels,58780 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 What are you going to do when he issues a papal bull forbidding Catholics from owning firearms? If you think that cannot happen, think again. He is an anti-gun socialist who is determined to remake the church over to his view of perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiren Smoke GUNFIGHTER Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 TJD, Can you keep a secret? So can I. Now in an effort to get back on topic, I had heard the story of St. Gabriel Possenti many years ago. I did not know or remember that he made his stand against Garibaldi's men. In the story they are describe as terrorists. At the time of our Civil War they were fighting to unify all of the city states into one nation of Italy. Garibaldi sent a handful of men to the US as a show of support for the Union. I am sure he was hoping to garner some favor from the US as well. I guess it is another case of one man's guerrilla is another man's freedom fighter. Smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Clayton Conagher #43872 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 Well that went south in a hurry. Thanks to everyone who stuck to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The guys I shoot with think my wife is a saint for living with me. Maybe it's her? I hear ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The apparent contradiction of the above opinions stems from this. The Pope can and frequently does make statements that are not necessarily official Church teaching. He is merely expressing his opinions on a variety of matters and is free to do so. He does not, and can not determine official Church Doctrines all by himself. If the current Pope holds this opinion about firearms, it is not the official Church teaching on the matter. As stated, the Church has always held to the doctrine of "Just War" which includes the right of self defense. Hang up callers. We have a winner. Just separate opinion, from dogma, and you have the answer to this puzzle wrapped in an enigma hidden in a crossword puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major BS Walker Regulator Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The Patron Saint of cowboys is Saint John (Wayne) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 We don't need some new age, left-wing, feel-good space cadet as our Pope. I sure don't, anyway. Good way to drive away members of the Catholic faith. I hope the church takes care of this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Jack Daniels,58780 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Just for your information Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme, the pope can, and has, unilaterally make or change church doctrines. It is called the "Doctrine of Papal Infallibility". Whileit has been many years since a pope has used it, it is there for his use. Any catholic who disagrees with him is subject to excommunication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Thanks for the info.Your assumption then is that all prior Popes were pro- gun? As, they evidently had the same papal power. And this Pope will be first in risking the loss of all the gun owning Catholics around the world, and their dollars, why??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Jack Daniels,58780 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I am making no assumptions, just giving you information you were not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus McGillicuddy Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The saint you are seeking is Blessed McGill. Check out the book, one of the best ever on the Old West and Texas history. http://www.amazon.com/Blessed-McGill-Texas-Literary-Classics/dp/0979839106/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1457200420&sr=1-1&keywords=blessed+McGill Seamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 St Barbara, for those that work with explosives. My thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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