Pietta c&b cylinders?

[Slowhand Bob, 24229]

A few years back Pietta decided to make some changes on their '58 Remington cylinders. My understanding was that they went from a narrow bolt width to a wider one and widened the frame and cylinder cuts to accommodate this extra width. The generation becomes important when one is needing to match cylinders to to their pistols, right? My question is, does this apply in any way to Pietta Colt copies? The process is so much better that I have decided to obtain enough cylinders to play a complete match with preloaded Colt cylinders.

[Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329]

Hi Bob:

Not trying to put you off of it.

Here is my experience when I tried doing that many years ago with my ROAs.

 

First, I snap two caps on each cylinder before the first loading -- there's a tin of caps right there.

Then, you've got to clean 12 cylinders after the match.

 

I settled on getting a Powder Inc. cylinder loader, and loading while watching the unloading table.

Takes 3-4 shooters to get this done.

Then I can go run the timer, and do other posse chores.

 

It only took a couple of matches for me to figure out that there was a better way.

Luckily, I was using factory cylinders, and sold them on ebay for about twice what I paid for them, which financed my cylinder loader, and then some.

 

Again, not trying to talk you out of it, just relaying my decision after I tried it.

 

In my experience, Pietta Colt cylinders fit old & recent guns.

You might have to narrow the bolt, as you have always had to do.

--Dawg

[Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933]

A BIG +1 to what Dawg said plus one other big factor. Add in the cost of 12 sets of quality nipples. It really isn't cost or time effective.

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

FIRST: The Good News. Pietta Colt Reproduction Cylinders fit Pietta reproductions, new and old. Way Cool.

 

NEXT: The BAD News. Pietta Colt Reproduction Cylinders fit Pietta reproductions. When you finish this project, you'll have 850 Bucks invested in Cylinders and Nipples. Providing you already have the first two guns, it's only 10 more cylinders plus good nipples. More Bad News:

 

Plus one to Dawg. After the match, you have to clean ALL those Cylinders/Nipples. Your gonna be at it for a while. Were it me (and it was), I'd invest in a tower of Power loading stand and re-load my cylinders (what I do) between stages. It really doesn't take long at all. Only two cylinders to clean at the end of the day.

 

Now ........ If your determined, Cabelas will front you new cylinders for 50 Bucks each. Longhunter Shooting Supply will front you Slixshot nipples for 36 Bucks a set. Plus shipping for all of course.

 

Good Luck.

 

Coffinmaker

[Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329]

Yep.....Forgot about the cost of all those nipples.

Ouch!

[Pit Bull Tex]

I don't mind cleaning the 12 cylinders.I like loading them when I am alone.Mine are Stainless so really not that hard to clean.I don't shoot them alot .I just like to make some boom and fire and smoke sometime.I shoot them at the house most of the time.I guess because it takes me so long to load them is why I like the 12 cylinders.

[Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L]

I'm with Dawg, Coffin Maker, & Larsen - Sold the other cylinders and learned to load at the match. If you start with a pair loaded at home, you only have five stages where you need to take time to load, and after stage 5 you can begin other duties immediately after shooting.

 

Count Sandor may chime in, as he is one who has the requisite number of cylinders and brings enough for a match all pre-loaded. To me it was the cleaning that became the chore.

 

CR

[Count Sandor, SASS #74075]

Count Sandor may chime in, as he is one who has the requisite number of cylinders and brings enough for a match all pre-loaded. To me it was the cleaning that became the chore.

 

CR

Truthfully, the advantages/disadvantages are a wash, for me anyway. Chambers do have consistent loads, and there is no down time at all during the match - back to timing/posse duties very quickly (anal/OCD posse leader!). Cleaning can be a chore, but I really don't mind - it helps to have a dedicated utility tub, in-house air compressor, and time.

 

Certain days, however, can be great. Mississippi Fandango a couple of years ago is commonly referred to as "Raindango:" Two straight days, almost without let-up. One stage was thrown out because of a flooded bay. Thanks to a broad-brimmed hat, 90 caps went on, all went "bang," no misfires from damp powder. Might have worked just as well if I did things the normal way, but Rick will surely tell you that I am not always considered "normal!"

 

In the end, exchanging pre-charged cylinders suits me, so I do it...as they say YMMV!

 

CS

[Slowhand Bob, 24229]

Been pre-loading the Remington cylinders for near 20 years ceptin fer a recent four year break and much preferred it to handling nasty cylinders between stages. BTW, the Tower of Power was taken care of many years back, right after the el-cheapo ball seater caved from a horrible order of hard balls. I also have a pretty nice set up for cleaning the multiple cylinders pretty fast and as to the latest production of Pietta nipples, they are doing remarkably well for me. I now have a short barl pair of '58s with enough total cylinders for a six stage match, while I now have two sets of short barl .44 Pietta Colt Sheriffs Models and will only need a few to complete them anyways!

 

My favorite shooters are a pair of Uberti '60 altered to Avenging Angels but as yet have not used them in a match BUT they shoot like a dream (thank you again Prairie Dawg). These already have the Army grips swapped out for the shorter Navies and I am even now considering swapping those for sets of Birds Head frames/grips? Uberti c&b cylinders are double and more what I can get Piettas for but I am playing with the idea of on set of them for this pair but the real money will be a pair of cartridge conversion cylinders for them.

 

Thanks for letting me know about the Pietta Colt cylinders being universal guys.

[Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329]

Whatcha waitin' fer -- SHOOT THEM ANGELS!

Coffinmaker & I like to shoot 'em GunFighter.

Cap Gun Snubbies forever!!!!

--Dawg

 

[Doc McCoy, SASS #8381]

I find it easier and faster to charge the by hand at the cart. I've tried the stand, tried the unloading table. By now it takes me 2 average-speed shooters to recharge the guns. My friends with the tower take longer to get the gear out, take the guns apart and put the gear back. I built a folding shelf on the back of my cart at the right height to put my flask, balls and wads within easy reach. I set that up when I park at a stage.

 

It's all about getting a smooth method to your madness. Doesn't really matter what that method is. Your idea is faster than mine, but I would not care for the extra cleaning time.

[Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933]

I find it easier and faster to charge the by hand at the cart. I've tried the stand, tried the unloading table. By now it takes me 2 average-speed shooters to recharge the guns. My friends with the tower take longer to get the gear out, take the guns apart and put the gear back. I built a folding shelf on the back of my cart at the right height to put my flask, balls and wads within easy reach. I set that up when I park at a stage.

 

It's all about getting a smooth method to your madness. Doesn't really matter what that method is. Your idea is faster than mine, but I would not care for the extra cleaning time.

Exactly.