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Vaquero fake case colored reblue question?


Johnny Loco

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I have a OM 44 that is starting to look pretty ragged on the case coloring, does Ruger still offer that free Reblue?

 

My blued barrel, grip frame, and cyl, look great

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believe if you send to ruger will come back blue only, Not case colored. Have a pair of bisleys that were returned for repair and poor finish that came back that way. Sorry GW

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One thing I did on some well worn Ruger Bisleys with worn case colored frames. I completely stripped the guns and degreased them. I put them in boiling water to let them heat evenly and then took them out, shook them to help get water out of crevices and put them on a clean cotton towel. The metal drys almost instantly. I then took Brownells Oxpho-Blue and applied it to the case colors. Applied two or three coats (reheating between each coat) and they came out looking better than they did when new. Something to try if Ruger won't do a reblue or if they will do it but you want to retain the CCH look.

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On a Uberti rifle, that is Color case hardened, can the CCH be easily removed with fine sand paper and polishing, or is the CCH deep into the steel? I like the shiny polished metal look.

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I believe that if you contact Longhunter he is now doing a true bone CCH finish.

I just sent them my original 73 to get that treatment. I've been tossing the idea around in my head to send the one cch new vaquero I have their way as well. Anybody seen one done?

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I just sent them my original 73 to get that treatment. I've been tossing the idea around in my head to send the one cch new vaquero I have their way as well. Anybody seen one done?

http://www.turnbullmfg.com/gun/ruger-single-action-finishing/

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I meant in person. Trust me, I've seen every photo on Turnbull's site. Numerous times. That's why I decided to get my 73 done. I've seen a few rifles in person and they look even better than the pictures, at least in my opinion. I just haven't seen a pistol done yet. Through Turnbull anyway. I've got some really nice looking cch on one of my Colts

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On a Uberti rifle, that is Color case hardened, can the CCH be easily removed with fine sand paper and polishing, or is the CCH deep into the steel? I like the shiny polished metal look.

 

Yes, even the CCH color case on Uberti guns is just a chemical treatment on the top few microns of the steel. Be better to have someone with a buffing wheel buff with the proper sequence of compound until you get down to high amount of shine. Then protect with lacquer. With sandpaper, all you really get is a lot of metal scrubbed off and not a flat surface or sharp edge anywhere.

 

good luck, GJ

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I meant in person. Trust me, I've seen every photo on Turnbull's site. Numerous times. That's why I decided to get my 73 done. I've seen a few rifles in person and they look even better than the pictures, at least in my opinion. I just haven't seen a pistol done yet. Through Turnbull anyway. I've got some really nice looking cch on one of my Colts

 

You won't be disappointed. This is a Turnbull Ruger.

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You won't be disappointed. This is a Turnbull Ruger.

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Jeez, Nate. That's the second time you've caused me to wipe drool off my screen with Turnbull pictures. Now I'm going through my safe to see what other guns could benefit. Hmm cap and ball maybe?

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Does any one know if Stainless (as in SS Vaquero's) can be CC.

When I spoke with Turnbull they said no. I asked about my colt hammer that I wanted to match the case colored frame.

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Might consider jeweling or even engraving the stainless small parts - sometimes that looks great with the rest of the gun Color Case Hardened.

 

Good luck, GJ

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Yes, even the CCH color case on Uberti guns is just a chemical treatment on the top few microns of the steel. Be better to have someone with a buffing wheel buff with the proper sequence of compound until you get down to high amount of shine. Then protect with lacquer. With sandpaper, all you really get is a lot of metal scrubbed off and not a flat surface or sharp edge anywhere.

 

good luck, GJ

Howdy

 

What you are talking about is removing the finish so the frame will be what is called 'in the white'.

 

I agree that sandpaper and steel wool is not the way to go, you will probably wind up with scratches. Buffing properly is the way to go. However to be properly buffed, the gun will have to be completely disassembled, including removing the barrel and magazine from the frame, so the buffer can manipulate the frame against the buffing wheels without having to deal with holding the entire rifle. That is the way firearms are prepared for a proper reblue.

 

Be forewarned that it takes real expertise on the buffing wheels to do a good job, poor reblues can be spotted a mile away by a poor buffing job, with dished out holes and rounded over edges that should have remained sharp. Not something your average guy is going to be able to do at home with his buffer and compound.

 

Then, when the metal is in the white, it will require protection such as a coat of lacquer to prevent it from rusting.

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Does any one know if Stainless (as in SS Vaquero's) can be CC.

An alternative to consider is getting your SS vaqueros bead blasted. I saw a set done by longhunter and they look pretty good. Very unique, and you can get the whole gun blasted or you can mix up parts like leave the cylinder SS

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Gun butchers and Tiajuana bumper rechromers stick strictly with buffing wheels. They do have their place, usually as a final buffing. A real craftsman, like Turnbull, does 90-95 % of their surface prep with files, stones and fine sand paper. Either method can can be done poorly or expertly.

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Gun butchers and Tiajuana bumper rechromers stick strictly with buffing wheels.

Hardly!

 

Here are two photographs from 1954 showing polishing and buffing operations at Smith and Wesson in 1954. Smith and Wesson used polishing wheels that were specifically shaped to the profile being polished, so an even polish would be applied to each surface.

 

In the first photo, a worker is polishing frames to achieve the legendary mirror finish for the deep blue that S&W was famous for.

 

 

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As the caption for this photo says, you can see dozens of shaped wheels in this photo, each used to polish a specific area of a specific part.

 

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Hardly the province of gun butchers and Tijuana bumper polishers.

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Ruger will do what?

The faux CCH finish that Ruger offered on their revolvers proved to be less than durable. Ruger being the stand up company it is will take revolvers whose faux CCH finish has failed and refinish them with their standard blue/black finish at essentially no charge.

 

 

One thing to be aware of if you send a firearm back to Ruger for any reason and it has any aftermarket parts installed. ( Springs, Hammers, Base Pins, etc. ) Ruger will remove them and replace them with factory approved parts. Usually you get your parts back in a small bag but I wouldn't bet on it happening everytime.

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The faux CCH finish that Ruger offered on their revolvers proved to be less than durable. Ruger being the stand up company it is will take revolvers whose faux CCH finish has failed and refinish them with their standard blue/black finish at essentially no charge.

 

 

One thing to be aware of if you send a firearm back to Ruger for any reason and it has any aftermarket parts installed. ( Springs, Hammers, Base Pins, etc. ) Ruger will remove them and replace them with factory approved parts. Usually you get your parts back in a small bag but I wouldn't bet on it happening everytime.

Thanks for clarifying that GW

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Yes, even the CCH color case on Uberti guns is just a chemical treatment on the top few microns of the steel. Be better to have someone with a buffing wheel buff with the proper sequence of compound until you get down to high amount of shine. Then protect with lacquer. With sandpaper, all you really get is a lot of metal scrubbed off and not a flat surface or sharp edge anywhere.

 

good luck, GJ

Anyone know what chemical they use to do the faux CCH?

 

Lefty

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Just an aside. Being a fellow that hates to clean my guns; when I do, I usually soak them in some form of degreasing or cleaning fluid. So I find myself in the 99 cent store and find some "lemon" grease cutter. Hey, its cheap and im just going to soak the parts in it. Dropped the parts from my 73 rifle, including my case colored side plates, into the degreaser and found something else to do for a while. When I came back, most of the crud was loosened or dissolved. But what was interesting is the solution had pretty much completely removed the case coloring from my side plates. Transformed to a smooth grayish patina that has not tarnished or required any special care. Someday when I get bored, I will tear it down again and soak everything.

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