Subdeacon Joe Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Love the sound of round engines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sedalia Dave Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Nothing like a good dose of WWII fighter porn first thing in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 "Jugs" sent my mind back to my college days. Had nothing to with airplanes or..... well, never mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 My first thought was AM will be banning someone this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 yup what I was thinkin has nothing to do with airplanes or booze CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Wyatt Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Going to be a lot of views on this title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 "Jugs" sent my mind back to my college days. Had nothing to with airplanes or..... well, never mind! My first thought was AM will be banning someone this morning. yup what I was thinkin has nothing to do with airplanes or booze CB Going to be a lot of views on this title! You guys were expecting these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldom Seen #16162 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Pilots liked the Jug for it's roomier cockpit. It was a advantage when dogfighting and on long escort missions. Whereas P-51 had a smaller cockpit which made it less comfortable and moving around more difficult. Plus the Jug had those 8 .50 caliber machine guns and could take a lot more battle damage. There was long range version (N) with a longer fuselage designed for long range B-29 escorts to Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 "Jugs" sent my mind back to my college days. Had nothing to with airplanes or..... well, never mind! My same thoughts...Well back to some of my emails that come in...Lots to look at... TL Will leave it at that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Some of us propellor heads knew exactly what this was going to be. Thanks Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 OK you WW2 plane guys.....why did they stagger the machine gun barrels coming out of the leading edge of the wing? Just curious. Thanks Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 OK you WW2 plane guys.....why did they stagger the machine gun barrels coming out of the leading edge of the wing? Just curious. Thanks Ike So the receivers would be staggered and the ammo belts would feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 So the receivers would be staggered and the ammo belts would feed. Good photo, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Just finished watching that Joe, really cool. Thanks for posting! Doc Ward, if you're watching this thread, there's one on the P-38 by the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Love the sound of round engines! Any idea on where that was filmed? The background looks vaguely familiar. Chino or Reno perhaps....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 As many of you know, one of my other pastimes is miniature wargaming. Here is my mini P-42 making an attack run on some Nazi armor. The results weren't pretty for those Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Any idea on where that was filmed? The background looks vaguely familiar. Chino or Reno perhaps....... Good eye! "Published on Jul 1, 2012 This video shows six of the world's flyable Republic P-47 Thunderbolt fighters. The following five Thunderbolts are seen flying in formation during the 2005 Planes of Fame Museum airshow at Chino, California. That was quite a sight (and sound) having five Thunderbolts in the air at one time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 As many of you know, one of my other pastimes is miniature wargaming. Here is my mini P-42 making an attack run on some Nazi armor. The results weren't pretty for those Nazis. NICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I remember my Mom said the P-47 was not a plane flown with a 'light-touch'. She also stated it was a hard plane to land in bad weather as it was slow to respond to controls at that speed. She always had a remark or two in her flight logs about what she 'felt' about the A/C she flew. She wasn't shy about using 4-letter words either. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Flimshaw Sass# 73310 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Just finished watching that Joe, really cool. Thanks for posting! Doc Ward, if you're watching this thread, there's one on the P-38 by the same guy. Tragically,the pilot in the video, Jeff Ethell was killed in a p-38 crash in 1997...... pilot error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 This isn't great because part of it never transferred, but enjoy what did. PW- 4360-29/ENGINE For all you aircraft buffs, I send you this moment of excitement! Hang on to your pacemakers (LOL) Below, you will find a great test stand video of the Pratt & Whitney 4360 Wasp engine introduced in 1944. Basically, the engine was 28- cylinder four-row air cooled radial engine. Each row of pistons was slightly offset from the previous, forming a semi-helical arrangement to facilitate efficient airflow cooling of the successive rows of cylinders, with the spiraled cylinder setup inspiring the engine's "corncob" nickname. A mechanical supercharger geared at 6.374:1 ratio to engine speed provided forced induction, while the propeller was geared at 0.375:1 so that the tips did not reach inefficient supersonic speeds. Initially, it developed 3,000 horsepower, later models gave 3,500 horsepower. The 4360 powered the B-50, successor to the B-29 and later the B-36, to name a few. And although reliable in flight, the Wasp Major was maintenance-intensive. Improper starting technique could foul all 56 spark plugs, which would require hours to clean or replace. (Note: The B-50 was only a modified version of the B-29. They exchanged the crappy Wrights for the P & W 4360’s, increased the size of the flaps, added a steerable nose wheel and enlarged the vertical fin to name a few of the modifications. The vertical fin had to be modified with a hinge system to fold over the upper half as the bird would not fit into our then available hangers for maintenance. It was a bit faster and climbed a bit higher with a greater payload than the B-29. However, it really never got off the ground as to the AF buying a bunch of them. The B-36 came into play and not long after that, the B-47 which was the beginning of the end for Piston powered bombers, etc..) No screaming poop!! I was assigned to Mather AFB in Sacremento Cal. as part of a field Maint. Sqdn. and when not flying in those lumbering buckets of aluminum as a scanner, I Co-Crewed a B-50 (which simply means I was one of about 6 guys with specific areas of responsibility on the beast). Nothing pissed me off more than some dumb ass officer who just could not bother to follow the check list when cranking one of those big monsters over. Flight engineers tried to do it right but there was always some bird brained brass head who was always in a hurry! Even in flight, they managed to screw them up with too lean mixtures, etc.( burning the crap out of the exhaust valves and providing us with the wonderful experience of pulling the damn jugs for overhaul) and more times than I care to count, they would drag their sorry butts home with one mill shut down. The time frame on tearing off cowling, baffle removal, plug removal, cleaning and reinstall took at least 2 men several days to acomplish not counting the busted and bloody knuckles collected in doing the job. they were great when they ran but a royal pain in the butt to maintain! As with most piston aircraft engines of the era, the time between overhauls of the Wasp Major was about 600 hours when used in commercial service. As I recall this was about the norm for us as well. Why am I sending this to you? Because it looks and sounds neat. That's all. Just a test stand video of a newly restored engine. But turn the speakers all the way up. Bask in the roar of twenty-eight cylinders belching the sound of freedom. Listening to that big bastard roar brought back a lot of memories! Also, the sound will most likely clear out the cat, your wife and any other extemporaneous people not accustomed to military sounds and the glorious roar of a Pratt & Whitney "round" engine. As the Warbird people say, "Jets are for kids." AMEN!! That shit you have to stand behind a light with a frickin match before you can "fly" it is for ass wipes. Real pilots pushed real throttles, listened to thier engines, knew every little sound they made, smelled real AV-Gas and actually flew the plane. Today they push buttons and let the computer fly. Horseshit! I may have to fly in those kerosene burners to get across the country but I don't have to like it! I'm a prop jockey from way back and will remain one until I check out! Enjoy the video and see why I loved prop jobs so much. Nothing like a big ass radial engine turning at 1800rpm and singing in your ear! It was the best! Jim B. Click here: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20 first start on Vimeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 My old boss' father flew Jugs (yeah, I would've been surprised if this wasn't about P-47s) in WWII. He had a picture of his dad standing next to his P-47. My boss looked exactly like him. His dad kept some gun footage camera for decades, but was worried he would get in trouble for keeping it, until my boss checked, then had it put onto video. Lots of strafing footage. Nothing exciting. Rivers, fields, woods. One train that I recall where it actually knocked a box car over. Just finished watching that Joe, really cool. Thanks for posting! Doc Ward, if you're watching this thread, there's one on the P-38 by the same guy. Thanks! The P-38 will always be my favorite, and in my view possibly the most underrated American fighter of the war. Tragically,the pilot in the video, Jeff Ethell was killed in a p-38 crash in 1997...... pilot error. As I recall, his father flew P-38s in WWII, and it was his favorite aircraft. Tragic to lose a talent and passion such as his, but I suppose to go doing something you love is the best way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Gambler Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I was hoping this would be about jug bands. Like this ... sorta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Thanks for the answer. Makes sense. Thats a lot of ammo. Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iditarod Kid Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 When those five did the low pass, I imagine the ground shook from the P&W power. An old used car lot in town had a cylinder/head assembly from a Double Wasp mounted near the entrance, as the owner wrenched on a P47. Big bore power for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Floyd Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The 47 is my all time favorite WWII plane. S. Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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