St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Howdy: Well, I have to fiddle with my trusty Baikal - hammers will not cock - trigger will not release the hammer. SO - - need to disassemble the darn thing. Stock has a flat head screw I think - how long the shank and how wide the head. Anyone know? STL Suomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Shine a light into it and see if the screw has a hex head. If you can use a socket, do so. My wife's Winchester can attest to the advantages of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Now there is an idea whose time has come. :-) Thanks. STL Suomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Solo Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Mine has a slotted head screw. The longest shank you can find. I had to go to the hardware store and buy one that would work. Use your flashlight and take a good look. Once it starts to back out, it isn't hard. You just have to be careful when you insert it in the screw head. They should have done something different like a hex head or even a Philips, but they didn't. The Russians are very frugal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Gunsmith 1/4 in hex drive - biggest bit - 1/4" hex socket - 3/8 drive extension - ratchet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You will likely have to buy a screwdriver with a tip that is large enough to fit the slot in the screw properly. Be sure to buy one with a square shank. You can use a wrench on the shaft to get the additional leverage you will need to break the screw loose. Most important before you start is you need a helper. Remove the barrels and clamp the receiver in a padded vice. Insert the screwdriver into the screw. Be sure the bit engages the screw and is not wedged between the screw and the stock. Now is the important part. One person does nothing but ensure the screwdriver is firmly seated into the screw slot and applies downward force to keep it there. The other person uses the wrench to break the screw loose. This person has to ensure that they do not apply any force except torque. They cannot push sideways on the screwdriver while trying to break the screw loose. A large crescent wrench can facilitate this by allowing the person to use one hand to turn the wrench while the other hand helps steady the screwdriver and keep it in the slot. Learned this trick in the military for removing stuck panel screws. Works well as long as both people stick to their assigned tasks and the screw head hasn't been buggered up from previous attempts. Or you can try one of these. I have never used one but I have seen them. No idea which size would fit a Baikal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 There is a slot and if you don't have a screw driver long enough you can get by with one of the old jack handle lug wrenches. The one with the lug nut socket on one end and a screw drive on the other end for removing hubcaps. But, the stock bolt also is hex. IIRC it's a 12mm or 1/2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You can find out how long of a screwdriver you need by just sticking any old thing in there and see how deep it is. Mine was coming loose, so I just took it apart last week so I could put some loctite on the threads. Just used a plain ol' screwdriver, not too long, I'm guessing maybe a 10" shaft? Coyote Cap did an action job on mine about 14 years ago, so I don't know how tight it might be if it has never been apart. One way to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 As best I remember my Bakail has a slotted/hex head stock bolt. I use a 3/8" drive 7/16" socket on a long extension. Works for me! Blackfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The one I just work'd on was slot type only. Need a blade screwdriver with a 10-12" long shank. The biggest deal is get'n that funny look'n 'criss-cross' screw out, that's on the bottom of the rec'r. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Mine is the "hammer" gun (cocking levers that only coincidentally look like hammers) It had the same problem you describe. I disassembled it and found dried chunks of what may have been Soviet Cosmolene -- chunks, I say, amber granules the size of a kitchen match head. A good session with Gun Scrubber took out any residual, once I dumped, blew and toothbrushed out the major debris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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