Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Howdy..A few Aussie mates recently shot EOT..they said real black shooters were hard to find..in fact, except for them hardly any real black was used in the Plainsman event. Are the BP subs now the preferred..if so that's a shame..shooting the real stuff & doing well [ with everything that is involved ] is more than just creating smoke to shoot obscured targets..just my opinion..what say ye' ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't have any substitute in my house!! I've got plenty of real Black Powder, (ACBP) and I've got smokeless, (some semi autos don't like the black stuff) but NO substitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 NO subs. Currently using with good success, KIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Show me store in my area that still sells real BP and I would buy it. I prefer it over subs, especially for 12 gage loads. I am not interested in ordering a pallet load and having it shipped to my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 With the tough storage regulations by the Feds and some cities it is increasingly difficult to find real black powder for many folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Red, SASS #71733 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 No subs for me either. Real BP is easy to buy, load, clean, makes fire and smells right! Â RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Real Black is all I use in my flintlocks but with the availability problem I use subs in my shotguns and anything percussion just because I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I haven't used a sub in over 10 years. I just split an order with a couple of other BP shooters and have it shipped to one of our houses. You don't have to buy a whole case, but it does help lower the price due to the haz-mat charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Rose, SASS #45478 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I use both. Mostly real black in shot shells, Pinnacle in everything else. May change to all black because I only have 11 lbs. of Pinnacle left. I don't really understand what all the disagreement is all about. You either make the smoke requirement or you don't. Getting BP around here is difficult unless I drive 75 miles or order by the case. And I never had any sisters so I don't know what it is like to kiss one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Not around here Mohawk. There are a couple who use APP & 777, but the rest are using BP -- not that there's that many of us making smoke. Â Subs in a Plainsman event just don't seem right, but if it's something one does only a couple of times a year, I can understand that. Subs are easier to find on the shelves and one or two bottles go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 BP only. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Nothing but REAL 2f and 3f Goex here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Not only do I shoot the REAL thing, but my 11 year old son does too. I loaded him some APP in his shotgun a few months back and he asked me not to do that anymore. Yup we LOVE GOEX here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubborn Dutchman, SASS # 61363 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 All I can find around here is substitute BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I bought 4 cases of Pinnacle when it was discontinued cuz it was dang cheap, so I'm still using that up. When it's gone, I'll go back to black in pistol & rifle. I've always used Skirmish #1 in shotshells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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