Ventura Slim, SASS #35690 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Designer jeans means to me the jeans with the embroidered designs on back pockets=woman shooter=ok I would favor not changing the rules on dress. Exception being over 90 degrees, then Hawaiian shirt and shorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 If allowing shooters to wear designer jeans will get more folks out to the range and shooting I say get rid of the rule. They are blue and denim that's good enough. In that case, allow shorts, T-shirts and flip-flops, You may get another person on the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Define and enforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 As long as no one is wearing these.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 In that case, allow shorts, T-shirts and flip-flops, You may get another person on the range. I did say "blue and denim". I knew someone would take my statement out of context. Are you a member of the media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I did say "blue and denim". I knew someone would take my statement out of context. Are you a member of the media? I have several pairs of blue denim shorts; those be ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I did say "blue and denim". I knew someone would take my statement out of context. Are you a member of the media? Howdy Assassin, Studying for my future career of Media and Language Engineering. Shorts and T-shirt could be blue and/or denim. Just wondering how low is to low as far as dress code before you are willing to say enough is enough, and that is after the grace period for new shooters. Edit, Tyrel beat me to it. A knife + long pants = shorts. Hmmm,, Daisy Duke comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I've seen loungy (pajama looking)pants, sweat pants with cowboy boots, and some other strange attire recently and thought to myself "wow", what do those shooters wear in a casual setting? The OP did mention designer jeans. Shorts, and flip flops are already covered in the rule book(s). We can go barefooted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Iirc we have come to the understanding that wrangle, Levi and Lee jeans are accepted. I would assume that if the jeans look like them then no problem like the carhart and Duluth jeans not if they are the fancy not bwestern fancy but rodeo drive fancy especially on a guy I might have questions on a gal no problem so let's get rid of it and have the logo rule cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 "Do we need to address 'Designer Jeans'" Only if we want to mail them somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Dangit! And I just got a pair of designer Wrangler Spandex bedazzled pants custom made with extra butt bling! I could make a fortune if I could create some brain bleach for sale when you wore those. Hi Folks, I think jeans are a minor problem. Please stop the short-sleeve T shirts, ball caps, and white athletic shoes. I hate thinking Outlawed in SASS has become as meaningless as Illegal is in regard to immigration. Regards, Allie Mo I must admit, I would be somewhat taken aback if I saw someone wearing these at a match. I simply don't know how I would respond. I see defining "designer jeans" as challenging, and perhaps a bit of a quagmire. After discussing it with Mrs. Doc and my oldest daughter, as has been mentioned, we need to be careful not to alienate the female demographic. Many wear what would often be considered "designer jeans" by many simply because they are cut more to fit the female figure. IF the rule is kept, it should be amended to list specifics, such as minimal accoutrement or stitching only without rhinestones, etc... B-Western could also have specific amendments as necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Coyote' Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It's out dated Remove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It's out dated Remove it Just like the restrictions on use of Blackhawks. (Totally outdated). Yet we still refuse to let therm be used in some categories, "Because they Don't Look Cowboy" Designer Jeans don't look Cowboy either, but it's OK to overlook that. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Just like the restrictions on use of Blackhawks. (Totally outdated). Yet we still refuse to let therm be used in some categories, "Because they Don't Look Cowboy" Designer Jeans don't look Cowboy either, but it's OK to overlook that. What a joke. Please define what looks "Cowboy" to you as far as clothing goes. If you can't, then you've just found out what the problem is. Remember that we are talking about the RULES here. Calls have to be made based on the RULES. Get rid of it. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 So, it sounds like someone could show up dressed in just about anything and no one would say anything that would upset them let alone not let them compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoDrawers Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I can't read the OP without quoting due to the cursive script. No clue as to what it says. Why do people do this? I can't be the only one who just skips cursive posts due to legibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Lessee... I've been trying to convince my wife to come shoot with us. She's got boots, shirts, hat, (I've had guns waiting for her)... but all her jeans have a little bit of design and minor bling on a back pocket...... (boy howdy, she looks goooood in jeans!) So, if one day she gave in and came with me to shoot, she wouldn't be allowed to?? Must be the "new" cowboy way. It's not even advertising, it's some decoration, partly covered by the rig!! You'd lose two members that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Get rid of the rule? Yep, we NEED folks to dress in these so they comply with: The truly unique aspect of Cowboy Action Shooting™ is the requirement placed on authentic period or western screen dress. Each participant is required to adopt a shooting alias appropriate to a character or profession of the late 19th century, or a Hollywood western star, and develop a costume accordingly. Keep the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 So, it sounds like someone could show up dressed in just about anything and no one would say anything that would upset them let alone not let them compete. Yep, just about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Get rid of the rule? Yep, we NEED folks to dress in these so they comply with: Keep the rule. Great Cowboy boots in the first photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I couldn't care less what designer jeans look like, let alone tell someone they can't wear them. Stupid rule........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The rule, regardless of it's merit, it too ambiguous to stay. I am curious as to it's origin and how it managed to get included to begin with though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keystone, SASS # 47578 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Well, The only category that flashy/designer/ bling-bling jeans could fit is B-Western. Let the folks shooting B-Western declare their preferences. If not being able to wear designer jeans deters a new participant then I doubt they were very serious about CAS. I dislike the phrases, "if it allows one more person" or "if it saves just one life". I joined SASS in 2002 because it was "Cowboy Action Shooting" and a dream come true. I remember the shooting & the folks more than trinkets & trophys. Many thanks to the Wild Bunch! Hasta Luego, Keystone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Irish Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Silly rule, get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Frank Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I say remove the rule, it's not enforceable. Is anyone really gonna tell a shooter to go home because he/she has designer jeans?? I think not. Just my two cents! Rye This is the best answer. If a reasonable person would refuse to enforce the rule, the rule should not exist in the first place. SASS needs to do everything possible to grow the sport. Playing fashion police (nitpicking about what label is on someone's jeans) is a good way to run people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I'm just glad that the ladies in our local club are there to SHOOT, not parade around in the latest fashions. Well, actually they do wear fashionable attire........ from the late 1800's! So will SASS let the intent of the rules be slowly chipped away until anyone can show up as long as they have a few bucks to pay the entry fee? Is SASS getting that desperate for members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Please define what looks "Cowboy" to you as far as clothing goes. If you can't, then you've just found out what the problem is. Remember that we are talking about the RULES here. Calls have to be made based on the RULES. Get rid of it. Phantom +1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye George Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 This is the best answer. If a reasonable person would refuse to enforce the rule, the rule should not exist in the first place. SASS needs to do everything possible to grow the sport. Playing fashion police (nitpicking about what label is on someone's jeans) is a good way to run people off. OR......... it might just be the way to entice new members to join! At the very first match I visited, seeing everyone walking around in period clothing, spurs jingling, dual gun holsters and cowboy hats was a big part of the appeal to me. Had there just been a bunch of folks walking around in cut off blue jeans, bermuda shorts, tee shirts or tank tops and sandals, I doubt I would have been attracted to the "mystique" of Cowboy shooting. Think about the changes you are wanting to make, today.... designer jeans, tomorrow.... ball caps optional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Either write a clearly defined, enforceable rule or delete it. Yes, I agree in period dress. That's a big part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 This just looks to me like another search for a problem that doesn't exist. Are other clubs seeing a glut of designer jean wearers? Or us this an isolated case that someone is making a bigger deal out of? I thought this kind of stuff only happened in the winter time. So many rules aren't required when there's enough willing to police our own. I'm pretty certain that if I ever showed up to a match in designer jeans, my fellow pards would lay into me some serious ribbing. I'd probably rethink it next time. And I live in the Bay Area of California, designer jean central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Well, The only category that flashy/designer/ bling-bling jeans could fit is B-Western. Let the folks shooting B-Western declare their preferences. This pretty much describes my feelings on the subject. B-Western is supposed to be fancy so jeans that have been blinged out fit in perfectly. Not so with the other categories. I sure don't envy the rules committee or match directors who have to make the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Frank Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I believe that peer pressure is a better way to enforce outfit choices than having to explicitly spell it out in the rules. Let the local clubs determine what is appropriate attire for their matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I believe that peer pressure is a better way to enforce outfit choices than having to explicitly spell it out in the rules. Let the local clubs determine what is appropriate attire for their matches. That doesn't always work as intended. Might be fine for those who don't stray far from their home ranges. Local clubs allow a LOT of equipment and practices that are NOT "SASS-approved"....this has a tendency to bite their club members in the tail when they go to other clubs to shoot or compete in matches above the local club level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concho Billy Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I haven't worn any designer jeans since disco went bye-bye.....we don't neen no stinking designer jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 When I started I didn't have much other than a hat that was acceptable. My local club let me slide as I got my feet on the ground but also let me know that for the club annual I would need to comply with the rules. The TGs wife also made me a suitable shirt in my size (thanks Sweet Lil!) and makes all of my cowboy shirts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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